Saddam Hussein Executed

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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 02, 2007 05:48PM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
lol, sheepy, you have something to tell us?;)

Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 02, 2007 05:53PM
Posted by: SHEEPY
erm..... no :P
Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 02, 2007 06:42PM
Posted by: Muks_C
i watched the vid on a popular video hosting site, it's not gory or anything.

i had a sense of feeling sorry for him while watching it, even though he's done a lot of bad things in his life. i can't imagine how it must feel to be stood there waiting to drop, or a few minutes previously while the preparations are going on, knowing you'll be dead very soon.

it just seems so wrong to kill someone as a punishment, even someone as bad as he was.




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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 02, 2007 07:11PM
Posted by: danm
i agree with you muks - it makes me wonder how the scale the US influenced this and how it could end up... imagine in 10 years time Bush being tried for war crimes and invading without reason.


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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 02, 2007 07:24PM
Posted by: Vader
Muks_C Wrote:
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> i watched the vid on a popular video hosting site,
> it's not gory or anything.
>
> i had a sense of feeling sorry for him while
> watching it, even though he's done a lot of bad
> things in his life. i can't imagine how it must
> feel to be stood there waiting to drop, or a few
> minutes previously while the preparations are
> going on, knowing you'll be dead very soon.
>
> it just seems so wrong to kill someone as a
> punishment, even someone as bad as he was.

At least he died like a man and not on his knees begging for mercy.






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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 02, 2007 07:53PM
Posted by: Red Sam
He shouldn't have died. There can be no excuse for the death penalty in any circumstances.



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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 06:50AM
Posted by: SAMF1
yeah, he could go to life sentence.



Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 11:44AM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
he woudlnt live longer then 10-20 years becouse of his age, I think it was useles.

Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 12:08PM
Posted by: Muks_C
it was nothing more than a political move, heavily influenced by Bush and Co no doubt, as it was their chosen Iraqi government that carried it out, so Bush can say "we had nothing to do with it, it's what the Iraqi people wanted".




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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 12:54PM
Posted by: rapid_f1
i just want to clarify something for ppl if they are not aware. everyone knows in iraq there are shia, sunni and kurds yeah. well do people also know that shia are not muslims? they have a belief in the "12 imams" or leaders who they say has the powers of Allah. This takes them right out of Islam as they associate partners with Allah. I just thought id clear that up for anyone who wasnt aware.

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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 01:08PM
Posted by: Zcott
I did not know that, thanks for the info.

Apparently New Jersey is considering getting rid of the death penalty. They suggest that it is cheaper to the state to keep a prisoner for life instead of executing him and that they are not keeping up with "evolving standards of decency".

Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 01:19PM
Posted by: Vader
To make it even more complicated, a lot of Iraqi Kurds are actually Yazidi, which is older than Islam.

Even Saddam Hussein himself was not a fundamentalistic Muslim and far from being an "Islamist". This is why it is ridicolous to assume he had close ties with Osama. Hussein was actually a very modern Muslim when he started out - he sort of had a "socialist-islamic" vision for Iraq with equal rights, wealth and education for every one, especially for women. Since this might have worked, it became a thread in the eyes of both the traditional Islamic world (hence the hatred from Irani Ayatollahs) and the anti-socialist "free" Christian-Western world. As I said, Saddam's vision might have worked, however it had the flaw of all visions - it needed to be put into practice. Power and money corrupts and eventually the way to hell is paved with good intentions.






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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 02:07PM
Posted by: Morbid
That is like a catholic saying that protestants are not christians! Only a sunni could say that, and it is blatantly wrong.

rapid_f1 Wrote:
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> well do people also know that shia are not muslims?



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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 02:11PM
Posted by: MikaHalpinen
very well said, Morbid.
Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 06:50PM
Posted by: rapid_f1
if you read on your islam first you will know that nothing is older than islam, as prohet adam (as) was a muslim. secondly morbid if Allah has written that shirk (associating partners) is the biggest sin that one can do and the shii do just that what does that say? I suggest that you read the hadith of prohet muhammad (pbuh) on these matters. they have given their imams the atributes of Allah. the belive for example that they are "absolutely infallible". this is shirk.

prophet muhammad (pbuh) said "All of Adam's descendants commit errors". Are the shia saying this hadith of the the prohet does not apply to their imams? If you know anything about islam you know this is wrong.

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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 07:17PM
Posted by: Muks_C
no offence, but all this mumbo jumbo is why i don't like religion at all.


and why is there all this hoo-haa about the camera-phone video on the 'net? i'm sure the US is more than pleased that everyone can watch their finest hour, defeating someone they've been after for a long time.




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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 08:20PM
Posted by: rapid_f1
no offence sorry but what exactly is mumbo jumbo? do you believe that we (humans) are on this earth for a reason or we are here by chance and when we die thats it? so all those who did good all their lives will end up the same as all those who did bad all their lives? the whole universe just happened in its beauty is just a chance happening? that simply does not stick with me im afraid. the quran tells humans (not just muslims) exactly why we were created and where we are all heading to (the day of reckoning or judgement).

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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 08:58PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
Nice muks, mumbo jumbo.

I'm not gonna pretend I know what all the things rapid said above are, but dude!

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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 09:15PM
Posted by: Muks_C
you all know my views on religion, so i won't type them all again now, but how do you know, Rapid mate, what we are here for and how we came here? you know this from a book? a book that humans wrote? how did they know?

you can believe in what you want, i don't mind at all, but please don't tell me i am wrong for not believing your or any other religion.




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Re: Saddam Hussein Executed
Date: January 03, 2007 09:50PM
Posted by: rapid_f1
i didnt say you were wrong, i just said it doesnt stick with me. you can beleive what you want noone is stopping you. if you ever read the quran in english you will see why we are here. to worship one God, Allah. All the prophets through history came with the same message and prophet muhammad (pbuh) is the final messenger. there are no more to come and therefore the day of judgement.

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