The time is now! [maybe not quite now]

gav Wrote:
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> It's all good and well saying "I can do this and
> it'll last until I'm ready", but there will
> inevitably be something you want that just won't
> fit in.

This is exactly the point where we differ. Your approach is the system that offers maximum capability and flexiblity for tomorrow. As I posted earlier, I have abandoned that approach, as I think it is folly. Read my first post.

> I've no intention of upgrading to Vista at work.
> It would be suicidal there. However, if you can
> get FS:X running adequately on a modest Athlon64
> with, say an X800 Pro, then you let me know. Same
> will apply to Crysis too.

I would appreciate that you would be a bit more accurate in your reading and interpretation of my posts, and your own replies. Where did I say I would buy a modest Athlon64 and X800 Pro? I didn't did I? Where did I say that you could build a rig now and play all games in the next 12-18 months? I didn't did I. I was talking of the present moment.

There will NEVER be a system that won't leave you suffering somewhere at the end of its life cycle. It is as simply as that. The industry lives off telling people that with proper choices and extra cash, they can somehow proof themselves against this reality. That's the hype. Don't believe it, and save the cash. Being 6 months behind the version of "the Jones" that have a uncontrolable technological fetish won't kill you.

Rounding off, I severely doubt we will come to any sort of agreement here, and I am not seeking a large debate, nor a convert. Keep your point of view. I just wanted to give mine to someone that asked, because I thought yours was over the top.

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It's only after we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything.

madotteя Wrote:
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> skel, whats your full specs mate? and the only
> EVGA mobo I could see is the 680i, not 690i


Yes, my mistake. Its a 680i silly numbers.

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SKEL

You can accuse a person of just about anything and get away with it, as long as you don't call them a lousy lover or bad driver. -Jackie Stewart

Morbid Wrote:
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> This is exactly the point where we differ. Your
> approach is the system that offers maximum
> capability and flexiblity for tomorrow.

In many ways today is tomorrow. I don't mind looking around and making sure something I'm about to purchase will work with what I have though. Most of programs I use are bordering on ancient, and that's as much of a concern as is what's around the corner.

Morbid Wrote:
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> I would appreciate that you would be a bit more
> accurate in your reading and interpretation of my
> posts, and your own replies. Where did I say I
> would buy a modest Athlon64 and X800 Pro? I didn't
> did I? Where did I say that you could build a rig
> now and play all games in the next 12-18 months? I
> didn't did I. I was talking of the present
> moment.

I never mentioned 12-18 months. I was merely using examples given an average gaming system today, using your post as a lever. It's not about you and I. There's millions of us.

Morbid Wrote:
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> There will NEVER be a system that won't leave you
> suffering somewhere at the end of its life cycle.
> It is as simply as that. The industry lives off
> telling people that with proper choices and extra
> cash, they can somehow proof themselves against
> this reality. That's the hype. Don't believe it,
> and save the cash. Being 6 months behind the
> version of "the Jones" that have a uncontrolable
> technological fetish won't kill you.

I don't know where this obsession with the hype is. I am in the industry, I read the roadmaps, I know exactly where things are heading, when it is, and what is required if I choose to follow it. Standing against that is where my first post in this thread came in.

Morbid Wrote:
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> Rounding off, I severely doubt we will come to any
> sort of agreement here, and I am not seeking a
> large debate, nor a convert. Keep your point of
> view. I just wanted to give mine to someone that
> asked, because I thought yours was over the top.

My point was that the specification suggested was over the top, so in that sense, we agree to a point.

Anyway, you're right - we'd probably never come to a common point, and we're drifting aimlessly away from the thread, so I'll leave it at this.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2006 02:54PM by gav.

LOL, I thought the AMD 64bit and X800pro was aimed at me... that's what I run atm!

Te hee this is all so amusing to me as a student, the prospect of spending 1500 quid on a machine is rather frightening

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I've saved for ages, I deserve it as I can never usually save money!

I love reading these threads, I learn a lot! The different points of view are also helpful, usually a reader with a decent-higher level of understanding of the English language will be able to tell your points of view from what is written without having to read another post (like Gav and Morbid's ideas on the PC). In the end we can just compare and make our own decisions based on what we read, and if you can actually afford to be more current and flexible with your updates, that's just a nice plus (in Iain's case, he saved and has the funds to do so, and can regularly update)!

I've never upgaded my PC from the day I got it, 3 years ago I lie, I bought a fan for the case! Everytime I got the cash to uprade a new socket came out (pci express, new mobo socket) and never bothered. I'm still on the good old 754 and AGP graphics (was until it went boom!) I think when I do get this PC (1 and half years in the waiting) it will be superfast compared to what i'm used to. I just need to wait until the right time (IS THERE ONE!?)

Thank you to Gui anyway, someone who can understand "where i'm at"



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/04/2006 07:18PM by madotteя.

who's the tramp in your sig pic? he needs a bath and a haircut.




LS's Tip of the week
ESSENTIAL OILS aren't essential unless you're an engine, a gearbox or a twat

shes a boy?


Jenson drives it like he owns it; Lewis drives it like he stole it

Iain, I guess I mistook it for the previous PC threads or other tech gadgets, but I've read and learned a lot

madotteя Wrote:
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> I've never upgaded my PC from the day I got it, 3
> years ago I lie, I bought a fan for the case!
> Everytime I got the cash to uprade a new socket
> came out (pci express, new mobo socket) and never
> bothered. I'm still on the good old 754 and AGP
> graphics (was until it went boom!) I think when I
> do get this PC (1 and half years in the waiting)
> it will be superfast compared to what i'm used to.
> I just need to wait until the right time (IS THERE
> ONE!?)
>
> Thank you to Gui anyway, someone who can
> understand "where i'm at"


arent you the one who is always posting about what graphics cards and other random stuff you want to buy for your pc? and then go against what everyone says?

NeilPearson Wrote:
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> madotteя Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've never upgaded my PC from the day I got it,
> 3
> > years ago I lie, I bought a fan for the
> case!
> > Everytime I got the cash to uprade a new socket
> > came out (pci express, new mobo socket) and
> never
> > bothered. I'm still on the good old 754 and AGP
> > graphics (was until it went boom!) I think when
> I
> > do get this PC (1 and half years in the
> waiting)
> > it will be superfast compared to what i'm used
> to.
> > I just need to wait until the right time (IS
> THERE
> > ONE!?)
> >
> > Thank you to Gui anyway, someone who can
> > understand "where i'm at"
>
>
> arent you the one who is always posting about
> what graphics cards and other random stuff you
> want to buy for your pc? and then go against what
> everyone says?


Arn't you the one who makes the posts that have nothing to do with a thread and usually turns out to be the twat who has nothing better to do the make "smart" comments and the gets reported by me?

shhh iain, shhh.

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She says brief things, her love’s a pony
My love’s subliminal

madotteя Wrote:
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> Arn't you the one who makes the posts that have
> nothing to do with a thread and usually turns out
> to be the twat who has nothing better to do the
> make "smart" comments and the gets reported by me?

Actually, no he's not. That's normally down to an Northern Irishman, who shall remain nameless, and myself. Neil has nothing on Scott and I.

Actually, no he's not. That's normally down to an Northern Irishman, who shall remain nameless, and myself. Neil has nothing on Scott and I.

GRAMMAR CHECK, and the nameless Scott? But yeah, it's true. He's in the little league next to you two.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2006 01:13AM by madotteя.

Got the Intel Core 2 DUO Extreme x6800 on order Sunil , but until that arrives, i`m using the Core 2 Duo e6700,overclocked a lil :P

(from GP4 forum)

and you say i'm bad, I'll be going from a socket 754 amd 3200 to the 6600! Anyway, I still don't think all your cu... i mean critics have anywhere to stand! Haven't spent over £5 on my PC in 3+ years.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2006 01:11AM by madotteя.

Good one!

[www.grandprixgames.org]

Here you are looking to buy a new machine in July 2006.

[www.grandprixgames.org]

How's that monitor you were looking at back in January?

[www.grandprixgames.org]

Did you ever get that dual core processor you were looking at?

[www.grandprixgames.org]

One year ago exactly you had decided to upgrade, with £2500 to burn.

[www.grandprixgames.org]

Tell us all about that highly expensive new monitor you bought recently.

[www.grandprixgames.org]

And while we're on the subject, how is that home cinema system of yours?

[www.grandprixgames.org]

And I hope that's a good TV.

[www.grandprixgames.org]

At least you're doing your research now....





Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2006 02:50AM by Zcott.

madotteя Wrote:
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> Got the Intel Core 2 DUO Extreme x6800 on order
> Sunil , but until that arrives, i`m using the
> Core 2 Duo e6700,overclocked a lil :P
>
> (from GP4 forum)

Yeah... I've not set foot in that place for years...

LOL @ Scott :D

(And yes Iain, the nameless name was intentional)

fuc_king PWNED.

why did u report my post for? it was actualy a serious question, i was confused since i know about a billion threads started by you asking for computer upgrade adice, and in this your saying "i never upgraded ever"

so a) your lying to us.
b) you abused me calling me a twat and i dont think thats nice.
c) i didnt have nothing better to do, hence why i bothered to read your stupid thread.
d) you reported a perfectly serious post, WAY TO GO.

stop creating things from nothing please.