Paul Dana Killed in IRL Practice

well they are saying the impact was at 175 ish mph, so he'd scrubbed off 50+ mph. Just saw Carpenter too late

Zcott Wrote:
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> Hopefully this incident will show that the IRL is
> just a death trap and not worth racing in. If this
> incident leads to changes to stop others being
> killed, then it wouldn't be in vain. But will Tony
> George listen?
>
>


that's the 3rd death since 97
carpenter was george's som in law

FFS

It was a tragic set of circumstances which can happen(and happened before) in any series racing on ovals.

Rest in peace Paul Dana.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/27/2006 06:31PM by tripleM.

I think he hit a bit of debris just before the main impact.

He did. the front wing was missing and the suspension collapased nefore he hit the other car.

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carpenter was georges stepson not son in law

well they are saying the impact was at 175 ish mph, so he'd scrubbed off 50+ mph. Just saw Carpenter too late

what are yellow flags for?

There are no "yellow flags" on an oval except for the start and finish line. there is however caution lights which can be quite hard to see at times

Its also being ignored that Dana hit debris before impacting Carpenters car. The front wing and front suspension had been destroyed.

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im struggling to understand how it all happened. i found these pictures : [images.google.com]

but i still cant why he went straight in.

Dave Ellis Says he had hit debris, Driver Scott Sharp says he was full throttle past him and hitting him. I need to see it for myself to make my own conclusions.

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He did hit debris, doesn't mean he wasn't going full throttle though.

He hitted debris? I didn't noticed, I saw the accident before the race, when I was reading a racing site, than I turned on at the channel that broadcast IRL here in Brazil and saw the accident.

I thought it wasn't going to have the race, but it happened and I watched the race, but then they kept showing the accident every yellow flag, and I didn't watched it agian, I got out of the room, loocked to somewhere else than the TV. I don't know why they kept showing it. And it was the brazillian channel, not the official broadcast. Really bad taste to them, it was to atract people that was changing chanell and see the accident to keep watching it.

I don't like to watch fatal accident, ok, I always watch it the first time, but keep watching it makes me feel bad...

It's different when you watch something to see the problems and try to resolve it for we don't have this kind of accident agai. And like the TV did to make a show of an accident, that's rally bad taste!!!

I remember watching Greg Moore (CART) fatal crash LIve on TV and amazingly american comemnators didnt even notice it as it happend under yellow flags (!)

gin Wrote:
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> I remember watching Greg Moore (CART) fatal crash
> LIve on TV and amazingly american comemnators
> didnt even notice it as it happend under yellow
> flags (!)

Greg Moore's crash happened after the green, not under yellow.

Dana was not at full throttle. Full throttle would have been a 215mph impact at least. The impact was 176mph according to telemtry. There was also cars above him on the track, and cars traveling the same speed. Several drivers made the mistake of going too fast, Dana was just the one who was caught out more than others.

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derry Wrote:
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> carpenter was georges stepson not son in law

In this case he still is.

R.I.P. to Dana.

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REHAB IS FOR QUITTERS

you can now find incidents of the crash at [youtube.com].

you can see just before the main impact, that Dana's car hits something black (some debris) and then white smoke, maybe from a locked left-front tyre.

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RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael

DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Dana was not at full throttle. Full throttle would
> have been a 215mph impact at least. The impact was
> 176mph according to telemtry. There was also cars
> above him on the track, and cars traveling the
> same speed. Several drivers made the mistake of
> going too fast, Dana was just the one who was
> caught out more than others.
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>
> could have been going full throttle,was
coming out of turn and they slow down
in turns.Scott Sharp was hard on breaks
and downshifting when he said a blur went
past him.Still some pretty sad business

Scott Sharp was in 2nd gear, and in double figures - everything that went past him was a blur...

I'm not defending Paul Dana at all - tragic as it was, he wasn't deserving of a place in IRL yet, if at all - he should have slowed down long, long before he did, and the fact of the matter is, his inexperience, and potentially that of his team members have cost him his life, and landed another driver in hospital - whether the spotter warned him where the car was or not is largely irrelevant.

But there's other factors to consider too... what if he'd creamed Scott Sharp as a result of Sharp slowing down far more than the other drivers? We'd all have been shouting at both them had that happened, and it could very easily ended the same way.

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> Scott Sharp was in 2nd gear, and in double figures
> - everything that went past him was a blur...

that's my point dana didn't slow down