Uh Oh! Here we go again......

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Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 11, 2006 06:28PM
Posted by: Peat
Blair threatens UN action on Iran

Western powers suspect Iran's nuclear ambitions are not peaceful
UK Prime Minister Tony Blair says Iran's decision to resume its nuclear activities is likely to result in a referral to the UN Security Council.
He said Tehran's move had caused real and serious alarm across the world.

Speaking in parliament, Mr Blair said European ministers meeting in Berlin on Thursday would decide how to proceed.

The West fears Iran is seeking nuclear weapons after it broke seals on a research facility. Tehran says it only wants to produce electricity.

'Colonial arrogance'

Iran's former President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani has lashed out at foreign condemnation of Iran's nuclear plans, saying it amounted to "bullying".

IRAN'S NUCLEAR STANDOFF
Sept 2002: Work begins on Iran's first nuclear reactor at Bushehr
Dec 2002: Satellite photographs reveal nuclear sites at Arak and Natanz; Iran agrees to an IAEA inspection
Sept 2003: IAEA gives Iran weeks to prove it is not pursuing atomic weapons
Nov 2003: Iran suspends uranium enrichment and allows tougher inspections; IAEA says no proof of any weapons programme
June 2004: IAEA rebukes Iran for not fully co-operating with nuclear inquiry
Nov 2004: Iran suspends uranium enrichment as part of deal with EU
Aug 2005: Iran rejects EU proposals and resumes work at Isfahan plant
Jan 2006: Iran removes seals at Natanz facility


In depth: Nuclear fuel cycle
In quotes: World reaction

Mr Rafsanjani, who still wields considerable influence, said he was "astonished" by the "bullying, particularly in the era of democracy, freedom and human rights".

On Tuesday, Iran removed UN seals from equipment at the Natanz nuclear facility. The UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said Tehran would start small-scale nuclear enrichment.

Addressing MPs in the House of Commons, Mr Blair described the current situation as "very serious indeed".

"I don't think there is any point in us hiding our deep dismay at what Iran has decided to do," he said.

"When taken in conjunction with their other comments about the state of Israel they cause real and serious alarm right across the world."

His sentiments were echoed by the Russian Defence Minister, Sergei Ivanov, who said it was a personal disappointment giving him cause for alarm.

Course of action

On Thursday UK Foreign Minister Jack Straw will meet French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy, Frank-Walter Steinmeier of Germany and Javier Solana, the EU foreign policy chief to discuss the crisis.

Iranians speak out

The EU meeting could trigger an emergency meeting of the IAEA's board of governors - probably in two to three weeks' time.

The board could then refer the matter to the UN Security Council in New York.

At the Security Council there are still many options, ranging from a statement endorsing the IAEA's efforts to full-scale sanctions.

The likelihood is that action, if any, will be towards the less dramatic end of the scale, reports the BBC's diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus.

bbc.co.uk


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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 11, 2006 07:04PM
Posted by: Muks_C
how long till the 45-minute warning?




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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 11, 2006 09:10PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
I've been reading lots on this, I think it's appalling! Iran want nuclear power, not nuclear weapons - I believe that IS totally innocent. That any country can even believe they have the power the launch a sanction into that is unbelievable.



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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 11, 2006 09:16PM
Posted by: Red Sam
Since when has UN Sanctions meant bombing the arse out of them?



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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 11, 2006 09:17PM
Posted by: Zcott
The double standards of the situation never fail to astound me. How come America is allowed to have nuclear power and nuclear weapons, and yet if any other non-English speaking nation even considers it, they're up in arms?

Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 11, 2006 09:25PM
Posted by: Guimengo
That was a point of discussion when Bush wanted to develop new nuclear weapons but some people with sense in their heads blocked that plan.

But the issue with nuclear power is what Iran is seeking. If there's anything to do with enriched Uranium and Plutonium... better not allow them to go ahead.
Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 11:04AM
Posted by: turkey_machine
Sorry, I feel in a minority here, but I have to side with Iran on this. The other countries (US in particular) are bullies to try and get the world to do their bidding. How can the US talk about sanctions when they got rid of Saddam in an illegal war and made a country descend into anarchy?



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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 12:40PM
Posted by: Abstraction
well duh, bush is a war monger, and all those countries, aus included, are not helping by pulling on USA's leg.


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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 12:46PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
Like Res Same says though, Sanctions don't = bombing, invading or war.


No nation is going to support USA on another "war" - on political and economic grounds its impossible imo.

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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 12:48PM
Posted by: b-tone
lets just hope hillary gets in next time and all we have to worry about is the interns shes shagging, not the countries she's bombing.

as for iran, give em nukes - give em all nukes

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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 01:14PM
Posted by: Abstraction
-qwerty- Wrote:
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> No nation is going to support USA on another
> "war" - on political and economic grounds its
> impossible imo.

um i doubt it, our johnny likes the US ALOT, and the media here haven't really emphasised that the war is wrong.
Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 02:05PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
I guess your armed forces must be better funded than ours, because we're maxed out at the moment with UN peace keeping, iraq and afghanistan too.

There's not a lot of scope for supporting sorting out iraq outside of the eu peacekeeping, simply due to logistics.

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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 02:53PM
Posted by: NickKK
And the real truth is everyone has nuclear weapons and this is just cannon fodder for the 'real' agenda



Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 03:09PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Oh happy happy joy joy. Shall we go look for these fictional weapons here now?

We must we get our over-stretched forces involved on every war on the planet

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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 03:56PM
Posted by: Anonymous User
lets just clear a 10km sqaure field in ever country, and america can bomb that between 8 - 9am in the morning. everyones happy
Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 04:08PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
that could work well. Birmingham's value would rise if it got bombed

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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 04:26PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
What makes you think an American could land a bomb in 10 square km?

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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 04:28PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
that's why I suggested Brum, doesnt matter where you hit! If you clip Tamworth, mneh. As long asSim's out, anyway :p

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Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 12, 2006 07:01PM
Posted by: zeppelin101
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> What makes you think an American could land a bomb
> in 10 square km?
>

Give 'em a continent, then they might just hit what they were aiming at

Oh wait, maybe that's Bush's plan


Re: Uh Oh! Here we go again......
Date: January 13, 2006 10:00PM
Posted by: The Lopper
Come on, i mean if the IAEA are happy that they're not making nukes, then that should do. How are these countries ever going to heal differences with the West if the west won't leave em alone.

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