Gp4 - SEASON OF 1981 (W.I.P.)

Hello Pedro, another beautiful project.
I found the very large rear wheels, could be smaller.
Check out this model can help in the development of Toleman TG-183B.
[www.the-blueprints.com]

Olá Pedro, mais um belo projeto.
Achei as rodas traseira muito grandes, poderiam ser menores.
Veja aqui este modelo pode ajudar no desenvolvimento do Toleman TG-183B.
[www.the-blueprints.com]

Célio Jr. - Rio Verde - Goiás - Brasil

celinho Wrote:
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> Hello Pedro, another beautiful project.
> I found the very large rear wheels, could be
> smaller.
> Check out this model can help in the development
> of Toleman TG-183B.
> [www.the-blueprints.com]
> s/racingclassic/toleman-tg-183b.GIF
>
> Olá Pedro, mais um belo projeto.
> Achei as rodas traseira muito grandes, poderiam
> ser menores.
> Veja aqui este modelo pode ajudar no
> desenvolvimento do Toleman TG-183B.
> [www.the-blueprints.com]
> s/racingclassic/toleman-tg-183b.GIF


....heehhee Celio foi atravez desse modelo que fiz o toleman de 83 e para 84, as rodas estao a escala, com esta nesse mapa..

Putz!!! Pedro eles parecem enormes!!!
O Raio das rodas traseiras são os mesmos, o que diferencia é altura do pneu traseira (maior) para o dianteiro (menor).
O interessante que na Brabham ele ficou visualmente melhor.

Putz! Pedro they seem huge!
The radius of the rear wheels are the same, the difference is the height of the rear tyre (larger) for the front (smaller).
Amazingly, he stayed at Brabham visually better.

Célio Jr. - Rio Verde - Goiás - Brasil

I want to speak Portugese too!

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Valeu Turbo!!!
Mas eu, Pedro, Kerley, Ricardo Lampert, Cleberpister, Pimpones, Gildoorf entre outros somos uma minoria que fala português, mas é super fanática pelo GP4.
Falar português não é fácil.... mas creio que podemos ajudar você.
É uma língua cantada... para início de conversa.
Como na Europa e outros paises tem muitos dialetos regionais e gírias....
Mas estou aqui para te ajudar.

Thanks Turbo!
But I, Pedro, Kerley, Ricardo Lampert, Cleberpister, Pimpones, Gildoorf others are a minority who speaks Portuguese, but it is super fanatic by GP4.
Speaking Portuguese is not easy .... but I think we can help you.
It is a language sung ... to begin with.
As in Europe and other countries have many regional dialects and slang ....
But I'm here to help you.

Célio Jr. - Rio Verde - Goiás - Brasil

celinho Wrote:
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> Hello Pedro, another beautiful project.
> I found the very large rear wheels, could be
> smaller.
> Check out this model can help in the development
> of Toleman TG-183B.
> [www.the-blueprints.com]
> s/racingclassic/toleman-tg-183b.GIF
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The wheels is wrong as he has tweeked the -91 mod wheels to fit his cars
and not make the cars using wheels as reference as most people.
He got a set from me a year ago made for the -82 mod but he chose to tweek
those -91 and think it looks better ... using textures from the -79 mod.
"turbo lover" got a -82 set to test and they are now a bit to small for his cars and
the same thing will happend if you try to use a -91 set as they are.
They where made to fit the size of those cars in game from the begining.

U/

... and so, I will repeat again, the wheels are correct, and I set an example for the following pictures, the wheels were scaled closely as you can see, is the scale for the cars of 81, 82, 83, 84 and 85, the image of Senna Toleman, gives the illusion of being bigger, because the rear wing is a little low, is not aligned with the rollbar, from within the season of 83, the rear wing had to be aligned with the maximum height the car, in this case with the rollbar, can verify that the Brabham BT52 and BT53, 2nd place, the wheels of Ulf, were scaled back because they were slightly smaller in relation to the scale that I got into cars, I did and I have done until today, the wheels of the Ulf will appear in the 3d option in their mods that I mentioned above, as the textures are not those of 79 ......

1 -map scale wheels


2- car wheels on the scale


3-wheels on the scale


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I'm sure that the outer size is about what it should be, but that means that the rim is not when tweeked.
You will have to resize the 3d -82 wheels up to make them fit you cars. Other cars made for gp4, use original size as a ref
when making cars and then people could even use org game wheel for new built cars if they like.
You know, new 2000, 2001, 2003 etc The -91 mod was the first mod with cusom wheels and made with the orginal wheels as a ref for size.
Thats why it appers to look like its a 15" (diameter rim) at the rear and 12" at the front. And not 13" front and rear.
Your cars is still great work and looks great, your 3d building speed is awsome.

In '79 the rims at the front were smaller than at the back? Since when were the rims equal in size ( 13" )?

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Turbo Lover Wrote:
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> In '79 the rims at the front were smaller than at
> the back? Since when were the rims equal in size (
> 13" )?
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Even in the early -70:th they use 13" front and rear with a few exeptions.
In the -60:th thay use 15 at the rear sometime and of course the Tyrrell was usinng 10" at the front on the six wheeler.
But the rubber has change over the year. Have a look att the 2010 cars and compare the front with
a 2009 car and you will see a different cose of the aerodynamic spec. They are now a lot more narrow
tread like in -95 as an example.
In the -79 they use 13" front and rear all cars. Just different rubber diameter and wide... and rim wide front and rear of course.

U/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/05/2010 08:14PM by Alesi_fan.

Alesi_fan, excelente explicação!!!
Era exatamente esta dúvida que eu tinha, quanto ao tamanho das rodas, se estavam corretos.
Muito obrigado.

Alesi_fan, excellent explanation!
It was exactly this question that I had, about the size of the wheels, if they were correct.
Thank you very much.

Célio Jr. - Rio Verde - Goiás - Brasil

celinho Wrote:
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> Alesi_fan, excellent explanation!
> It was exactly this question that I had, about the
> size of the wheels, if they were correct.
> Thank you very much.
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no problem

U/

Very good!

Célio Jr. - Rio Verde - Goiás - Brasil

Alesi_fan Wrote:
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> I'm sure that the outer size is about what it
> should be, but that means that the rim is not when
> tweeked.
> You will have to resize the 3d -82 wheels up to
> make them fit you cars. Other cars made for gp4,
> use original size as a ref
> when making cars and then people could even use
> org game wheel for new built cars if they like.
> You know, new 2000, 2001, 2003 etc The -91 mod was
> the first mod with cusom wheels and made with the
> orginal wheels as a ref for size.
> Thats why it appers to look like its a 15"
> (diameter rim) at the rear and 12" at the front.
> And not 13" front and rear.
> Your cars is still great work and looks great,
> your 3d building speed is awsome.
>
> [web.telia.com]
> pg


..... Ulf, you are talking about the size of the rims, I just specified the total size of the wheel when you see the 83 mod, your wheels in 3D, you'll see what I mean, if I do not put the 3D mod 82, it was because I could not, make them spin, when I put the update of 82, you'll see it'll be all right

Muito bom!!!
Pedro sei que podemos confiar em você.
Sucesso.

Very good!
Pedro know we can trust you.
Success.

Célio Jr. - Rio Verde - Goiás - Brasil

Go Alain! I know who the real winner of 84 was!!!!

CarlosTex Wrote:
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> Go Alain! I know who the real winner of 84 was!!!!

poor prost,niki was too spietate with him:before the race he said that he wanted to finish 2nd,behind prost,so he would won the title with a gap of 0.5 points on alain.and that happened...

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Yes, and then Prost learned a lot from Lauda and he showed the following seasons

..... If it were not, the unreliability of the BMW engine, who cleaned the championship in 1984, was Nelson Piquet, with 9 poles still won 2 races, but it was a disaster, Piquet will be front in many races, with several seconds in advance, and then break out the engine, so was at least 8 or 9 races, but I liked to see Lauda beat Prost .........

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Ripping Corpse Wrote:
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> ..... If it were not, the unreliability of the BMW
> engine, who cleaned the championship in 1984, was
> Nelson Piquet, with 9 poles still won 2 races, but
> it was a disaster, Piquet will be front in many
> races, with several seconds in advance, and then
> break out the engine, so was at least 8 or 9
> races, but I liked to see Lauda beat Prost
> .........

but remember that TAG Porche was a great engine,and it won 12 races of 16.the mp4-2 was a great car

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