130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!

Posted by kirky 
Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 17, 2002 08:12AM
Posted by: Ellis
But you can tell just by looking from the cameras that that corner is wrong.




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Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 17, 2002 12:35PM
Posted by: Glyn
In what way Ellis?



Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 18, 2002 06:43AM
Posted by: Ellis
Look on the track side view. The corner is too "easy", the exit is not tight enough - you dont even have to go near the kerbs on full throttle.

Look on the track side view, then compare it with a video of a real race, and you can see the difference (unfortuanlty) :(




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Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 18, 2002 02:08PM
Posted by: Glyn
I understand you now Ellis. I just did an experiment and the corner is actually flat in monsoon conditions if your careful!



Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 18, 2002 02:09PM
Posted by: Ellis
Yup, exactly my point

The corner must be wrong - even incorrect physics wont allow for that




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Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 20, 2002 04:06AM
Posted by: Glyn
I dunno though about the corner being wrong.... you see, it shouldnt be wrong. I wonder if it has got something to do with the physics calculating downforce as the speed increases incorrectly or something?



Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 20, 2002 06:53AM
Posted by: Zcott
I think Neil might be right there - certainly there is a lot of grip and downforce on those cars (but yet not a lot of understeer when you are going too fast through a corner), almost too much.
Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 21, 2002 02:35AM
Posted by: Glyn
I think that problem is because water resistance isnt calculated. I guess (only a guess) that Geoff and his team based it on if the track was wet, you'd be using wet tyres, and they'll simulate the water resistance effect with wet tyres because I know in the wet your top speed is very as high, even on the same setup.



Re: 130R at Suzuka? Full Power anyone!
Date: October 21, 2002 01:05PM
Posted by: Glyn
I wouldnt say cutting corners. Modelling such a thing would be very complicated, and the extra processing would probabyl effect the performance of the game. Its just a lot easier and less processor hungary to hard code the resistance figure into the wet tyres really.



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