2011 Physics (development to run under FIA 2011 regulations)

Hi,

let me explain what this .g3p file is...

1) Low downforce/coefficient drag ratio;
2) X Y Z axis based on Sauber C29 aerodynamics;
3) Total Weight is now 640Kg;
4) Experimental calculations in CoG Height, braking force, weight distribution/center of pressure (FIA regulatory limit for 2011), old mechanical grip/downforce coefficient & flywheel;
5) Revised slick tires (lateral/longitudinal grip, slip angle, radius and weight based on new pirellis and spreadsheets (project RC365STB) coming from Cooper – Avon website;
6) Max Engine RPM not to exceed 18000RPM (FIA regulatory limit for 2009);
7) Pack has been tested on a standard gp4 install, w/ GP4 MOD 2011 by Mrmpleo and friends & also w/ GP4 MOD 2011 by GP4 Forever;
8) MagicData patch for standard & new tracks were included in this package;

Other experimental techniques and observations were also applied;

DOWNLOAD (MediaFire) => [www.mediafire.com]

remember that… don’t use this as a source for redistributed material and this pack has included a 2011 performance file (based on European Grand Prix F1).

If there are any questions please don't hesitate to contact me at:

[nxs.eti.br]

PS: if the magic-datas is modified, new calculations will be required in relation to the physics and performance... because they were not produced for (working with), OK? :p

no refueling can not be reproduced in grand prix 4, because this was not developed to... i think there is no minimal possibility.

for the moment all that you can do is use standard datas on new tracks. this has been done previously (by me).

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Edited 14 time(s). Last edit at 12/23/2011 05:01PM by phantaman.

It sounds really interesting.

yes sounds great, i want to test them

Is it to be used with v8 torque gp4.exe?

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If physics are good, you don't need a V8 torque exe, as all the info about power, torque, center of inertia, etc, is all stored into the .g3p file

i am wondering why no one read the readme file (Decrypted Max Torque is optional)... is not necessary, OK? this stuff (2009 physics) was tested in a standard gp4 install before being released.

i'm waiting for more questions :0)

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2011 06:29AM by phantaman.

Sorry, i havent downloaded it yet (was at school) otherwise i would have read the readme file.

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no problem ... nobody is perfect!

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2011 06:29AM by phantaman.

i dunno if it's the track or the physics but i have too much grip i'd say. doing a 1:23:xxx with 12 fuel laps on my second flying lap with the new physics at ttm's melbourne.

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used to be GPGSL's Nick Heidfeld

are you using his performance file as well?

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nope i was using a personal perf file but with less bhp so that shouldn't be the problem. grip isn't related to the perf file anyway. i think the cornering speed is to high, that's why i suppose it could also be the track in combination with that physics file.

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used to be GPGSL's Nick Heidfeld

Well, maybe we should just try and compare performances with the real ones after the Australian GP to adjust the file ( if comparison is possible, just a suggestion)

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2009 04:49PM by n00binio.

i can help with something? :p

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2011 06:30AM by phantaman.

I tried your physics, I like them but they are still a bit to fast, I'm doing low 1:22 laps at melbourne

also the car feels a bit understeery and I don't realy feel the oversteer these cars should have

overall good physics, I'de love to test any updates you make

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obviously new calculations will be required in relation to the magic-datas and performance... because they were not produced for (working with it), OK? and as i was said the combination (this physics with high track grip) can produce these discrepancies :p

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2011 06:30AM by phantaman.

Just tried with your perf and physics on 2007 TTM Melbourne.
Did qualy lap with keyboard and default setup, chose second best car,(power team dependant) did 1:19,5, but Rosberg set pole with 1:17,7. Grips is high at that track,but still physics seem little too strong.
The car as far I can judge from keyboard is stable, leaning towards oversteering.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2009 07:18PM by BAR#10.

well ... don't know what the conditions of these tests because i know that in a default installation, with default setup and using this pack a result confirmed by the hofxlap tool is (of course if i use the standard gp4 performance a lap time will be much smaller - i think it could be the magic data of your track... too much grip and etc...):

GP4 1.02 Hotlap for track 1: Melbourne
Level: Ace / Frame rate: 30.0 FPS
Race type: Practise Session: Unlimited practise
Weather type: Custom Probability of rain: 13%
Car #20, driven by Bruno Senna (HRT-VIRGIN - COSWORTH)
Power: 696 BHP, weight 621 kg, fuel laps: 6.0
Lap time: 1:26.832 (split1 0:28.847, split2 0:56.772)
F1 Auto Brake : --- Clutch dev/mode: digital / switched
F2 Auto Gear : on
F3 Spin Recovery : --- Brake dev/mode: digital / switched
F4 Indestructible: ---
F5 Best Line : on Throttle dev/mode: digital / switched
F6 Best Gear : ---
F7 Throttle Help : on Steering dev/mode: digital / switched
F8 Steering Help : on
SH percentage : 37% max lock: 18 rwcs: 40%
Setup: (actual wings, brake balance and gears are in track file)
15,15 R42.500:57.500F 25,32,39,45,51,56,- 5/5,5/5
ARB: F 03000 R 0300 Tyre type: Soft Drys
00/4/4/21/21/1400/38.0 [0.01] 00/4/4/21/21/1400/38.0 [0.01]
00/4/4/10/10/1000/58.0 [0.00] 00/4/4/10/10/1000/58.0 [0.00]

GPx started on 16-04-2010 13:59:39
Log version 1.16, GPxLap version 3.93
init, car, damage, cc checksum: c8e6dc4a, 00000000, 6015de08, 6b3a7547
pit lane speed limit: 80
free practice cars: 1
save/restore car state: disabled
Standard track 1: 'Melbourne'
checksum 531111ee
Frame rate: 30.0 FPS
Possible failures: All
Random seed: 0,0,0,0,0,0
In-car setup changes: disabled
Pitstop time: -:--.--- (pitstop bug fixed: yes)
Session started normally
Driver Car LN RP FP Fuel Wght Split1 Split2 Lap_Time Session_Time AvPO SDur F1 F4 F7 OT MinSpd MaxSpd TWLR TWRR TWLF TWRF
Bruno Senna #20 2 1 1 5.1 619 0:28.847 0:56.772 1:26.832 0h03m14.508s 27% 0.4 0 0 0 2w 82.40 311.18 0.19 0.18 0.36 0.24

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2011 06:31AM by phantaman.

Dunno if its your physics but at the start of the race the cars grind to a halt (almost) at the first corner, its really annoying and unrealistic, any suggestions on what I can do, is it the physics?

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hmmmmmmm.....Scarlett Johansson......

and the most important ... which track? :p

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2011 06:31AM by phantaman.