How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?

Posted by Excalibur 
How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 26, 2008 07:28PM
Posted by: Excalibur
Hello!

I'd like to know if there is an easy way to make lods 1 to 4 from lod0.

My PO increases until half race to 100% because I have 4 teams with similar lods from 0 to 4. (so, just the best lods)

I have read Zmodeler tutorial but I haven't found how I could do this.

Thanks.

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Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 26, 2008 08:16PM
Posted by: Gigi4
never done this, but i know you have to use 3ds Max with a plug in







Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 26, 2008 08:21PM
Posted by: Excalibur
Thanks Gigi4... J-C told me how to do this with 3DSmax, Zmodeler and Gp4Builder... If it works for me, I'll make a tutorial about it...

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Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 26, 2008 11:22PM
Posted by: raulongo
Polycruncher and lots of patience, and you'll get perfect LODs. It is a plugin for 3DS and a standalone app...



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Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 12:49AM
Posted by: Renault#1Fan
Doesn't using team editor and selecting car lod 0 only work well too? I had a PO of about 50-55 when I did it.
Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 03:19AM
Posted by: Excalibur
raulongo ecrit:
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> Polycruncher and lots of patience, and you'll get
> perfect LODs. It is a plugin for 3DS and a
> standalone app...


Thanks a lot Raul ... I will try to find this plug-in...

So, I've tested the multires function under 3dsmax by decreasing vertex percentage until 65% . It is not so bad but it takes a long time to rename parts of the car for 3ds and to rename it again once modified and to assign the textures too.

@Renault#1Fan: Well, if I select the best lods (0 only) , it increase the PO... But it depends of the size of your lods, your graphic card and your PC configuration...So, it may works fine for you but not for everyone... I've tested to force the best lods but it is worth! lol

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Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 05:11AM
Posted by: J-C
I had to that for the F1 2007 season mod.
I almost went nuts doing lower lods for nearly 50 cars
because the majority of the authors didnt make them.
This is no joke. If any dont belief please have a real look
at the 2007 cars that were released.

07 No Tsm Track Pack__GPGSL08 Mod__range">97 TeamArt
Tutorial how to compile a No Csm Mod
Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 06:26AM
Posted by: Excalibur
I'd like to try Polygon cruncher because it looks great , better than the multires function under 3Ds max..But I don't find any trial version. Does one exist or just the full commercial version?

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Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 10:51AM
Posted by: Ruboy
Lee's first version of the champc car mod has only lods 0, too....Well, the mod was not playable for me even in lowest quality. My PC is neither the best not the worst...so it was a bit annoying for me. Fortunately Diego made the lower lods and I helped him with reassigning the textures to each lods which also was much work...but it really was worth it. The game runs much better now...I onlz have PO more than 100 at start...after that it is ok :)
So, carshapers, please make lower lods when releasing a car. Comparing it is much more work to get the lod0 finished from scratch than making the project complete bz creating the lowers lods...that's also some work but definitely less.
So I am reallz happz that Jorge spent much time for adding the missing lods for his 2007 mod :)

Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 10:57AM
Posted by: phantaman
Excalibur Wrote:
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> I'd like to try Polygon cruncher because it looks
> great , better than the multires function under
> 3Ds max..But I don't find any trial version. Does
> one exist or just the full commercial version?

Polygon Cruncher v7.8 trial => [www.mootools.com]

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/27/2008 10:58AM by phantaman.
Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 12:09PM
Posted by: raulongo
Ruboy Wrote:
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> Lee's first version of the champc car mod has only
> lods 0, too....Well, the mod was not playable for
> me even in lowest quality. My PC is neither the
> best not the worst...so it was a bit annoying for
> me. Fortunately Diego made the lower lods and I
> helped him with reassigning the textures to each
> lods which also was much work...but it really was
> worth it. The game runs much better now...I onlz
> have PO more than 100 at start...after that it is
> ok :)
> So, carshapers, please make lower lods when
> releasing a car. Comparing it is much more work to
> get the lod0 finished from scratch than making the
> project complete bz creating the lowers
> lods...that's also some work but definitely less.
> So I am reallz happz that Jorge spent much time
> for adding the missing lods for his 2007 mod :)


That's why I do LODs in my releases with Fongu ^_^



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Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 12:10PM
Posted by: Gigi4
J-C Wrote:
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>If any dont belief please have a
> real look
> at the 2007 cars that were released.

2007 was the first year i modded GP4.
It was a shock!







Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 01:42PM
Posted by: Excalibur
Ruboy ecrit:
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> Lee's first version of the champc car mod has only
> lods 0, too....Well, the mod was not playable for
> me even in lowest quality. My PC is neither the
> best not the worst...so it was a bit annoying for
> me. Fortunately Diego made the lower lods and I
> helped him with reassigning the textures to each
> lods which also was much work...but it really was
> worth it. The game runs much better now...I onlz
> have PO more than 100 at start...after that it is
> ok :)

Absolutly! I've tried different configuration to understand why my PO was high:
1- Reduce my cars wad with lower textures: It changed nothing.
2- modify my F1graphics.cfg, graphics ingame and graphic card configuration: I just won a few frames rate more but nothing important.
3- using only best lods: It was worth.

So, That's how I have understood the problem came from cars which had 10 high lods because I had an old carswad before updating the 2008 one and I was always playing with a 50% PO max during the entire race with lower lods for all cars.

Like you my PC isn't the best but not the worth too ( Acer Sempron 3500+, 1,8 Ghz, 3,5 GB ram and a Nvidia 8600 GT graphic card )

> So, carshapers, please make lower lods when
> releasing a car. Comparing it is much more work to
> get the lod0 finished from scratch than making the
> project complete bz creating the lowers
> lods...that's also some work but definitely less.

I agree with that. It is much work at the base but less at the end and a lot of people say that they would love to play with some cars but they can't because it runs so slow on their PC. So, it would be great.

Making lower lods from lod0 takes about 2 hours just for one lod for me, now I have understood the way to do it.. Hahahaha! ;)


@ Phantaman: Thanks a lot, mate!! So, it is still christmas!!

@ Raulongo: If your version of the Honda Ra08 has lower lods, it interests me because I've got the Gigi4 version, which is very good but with lods 0 only and all the links to you and Fongu version leads to Gp4Italia but the download section has been deleted ( I've checked today)... So, if someone has a link for this one. Thanks in advance.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/27/2008 02:10PM by Excalibur.
Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 03:16PM
Posted by: raulongo
You have the car here ;-)
[www.grandprixgames.org]



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Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 04:16PM
Posted by: Excalibur
Thanks a lot, mate!

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Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 07:33PM
Posted by: Gigi4
Excalibur Wrote:
>I've got the Gigi4 version, which is very good but with lods 0 only

It's the first time i read my car is good since i relased it!
Thanks mate







Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 08:33PM
Posted by: gezere
All 2007 & 2008 cars released by the MMG/GP4 modding group have lower lods, like the F2008 I did with Craigo, thanks to our "lower lods machine" for that (Diego).
And all future cars will get also Lower Lods for sure. :) :)

Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 08:59PM
Posted by: raulongo
Gigi4 Wrote:
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> It's the first time i read my car is good since i
> relased it!
> Thanks mate

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/27/2008 09:04PM by raulongo.
Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 09:03PM
Posted by: Kimi-The-Champ
no no no Raul.
gigi4 has made a 2008 honda liverie of the shape from djvass.
Re: How to create lods 1 to 4 from lod 0 ?
Date: December 27, 2008 09:04PM
Posted by: raulongo
Ok, post edited.



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