Evidence . Nicola & carshape makers come in.

Ok, let's start answering your Qs...
Q1: That's because of the body: using more polies would mean wasting them (or just making too hi-res), using less would make it low-res
Q2: As I already wrote, try making a plane or a box. Edges will turn out that way
Q3: Try cutting something in Zmod. The edges will turn out that way this time too
Q4: same as Q1 and Q2
Q5: I already wrote this one too. He has done the first one and the rotated it!
Q6: Same as above: if you have to do that shape and use Zmod's tools, you'll get the same thing! Look at all the other (and more complex) part of the cockpit: they're completely different!
That's it. If you have anything more, I'm here to answer.

still i respect both of u.

so guys apart from NIC and co(OR advanced CARSHAPERS) and enz, please rest of them stay away from here and stop critize them.

please leave them alone and sort things out. sometimes in family problems will come ,so adults need to gather and discuss in a good manner at the same time children should close their mouth and watch manners instead put fire

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Just because a seatbelt, Enzo started all of this? It's too bad.

willshui Wrote:
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> Just because a seatbelt, Enzo started all of this?
> It's too bad.


He didn't started it, he send it as a private message, nicola made it public and then it started off public.

Öggo Wrote:
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>Q5: I already wrote this one too. He has done the first one and the rotated it!

I think that's not the point. Watch the lock carefully, compare it with Q2/Q3, didn't you see that they are different? Two edges was turned while others not. If you are a shaper, as you described, you will definatly copy the made one to generate the rest two? don't you think it's very strange to turn to edges, and this two edge are just the same as I turned?



Mapping the belt will cost about 30 minutes' work, we also have a reason to use others to save time.

and you can make a deep explore into the mapping , just minutes ago (while writing this reply) there' was a new discovery to support my doubt , look at this:

any words want to say? trying to map the same is nearly impossible in ZM coz you can't input the coordinates.

You can expriment with yourself , just import the two cars and map ferr_int and ferrari_3


Q1:
Why did the segments' height and the belt width fits well?


Q2:
I want to know the way Nicola make the belt straight ,and why didn't he make the other straight.


Q3:
If I remove the unstraight one away..
I want to know, why the mapping of the 2nd segment and 3rd segment has a same unflat?



A Racing and Rail fan.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2007 01:53PM by Enzojz.

its just a seatbelt anyonce can clone it like for example buy renault clio get ot seatbelt place it on your ferrari enzo lol (^^,) its just matter of trust..

Enzojz... Nicola uses some bytes, i think they looks like yours. And he breathe the same air (or very similar).

@Öggo

When breaking , how the extra edge goes depends on the exsisted one.If you creat a face in the left or right, the result will turn out differenly coz I will filp them later.I think your answer is not good enough to make me believe.

for the cockpit, if you compare the two shape from side view, just move it, they will fit well.

What's the most important, after the discovery in mapping, I think it's not necessary for you to vindicate for Nicola. You can, but it's not worth you doing so. I know how do you feel, you are his co-painter, if I were you, I will do the same.

You'd better ask Nicola what's happened.

A Racing and Rail fan.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2007 02:25PM by Enzojz.

This is so stupid, its a bloody seatbelt. Let it go.

simply pathetic...

32BOBO32 Wrote:
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> simply pathetic...

yes, simply pathetic.

My only request for him in the PM is, if he made a positive respose to me, he only need not to do so the next time. It's much better than remove, for any other punishment in history.

I never thought of kicking him out of the play or remove all the related files(unless he keep silent), all words about it comes from his keyboard.

but patheticly, he didn't.

Erix is fortunate, the day I found the problem, I immediately downloaded Nicola's Toro Rosso and found the same thing. I also planned to check erix's car and others from the same host, but , accidently , I lost the connection to the server, so I thought I didn't want to trouble myself anymore. If it were as Nicola said, erix and others are using the same belt, I would send them the same message the same.

I seldom check others cars, because I trust all of you in the community, all the leeching I know was all reported by others. But Nicola's safebel really shocked me.

A Racing and Rail fan.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2007 02:39PM by Enzojz.

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> > A bit far searched enzo dont you think?
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> > Maybe you are the cheater here :O look at this!
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> > It goes exactly the same way, omfg, oh noes!
> > Enzojz took parts of terraurs car!
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> If you are a carshaper , you must know there's a
> reason doing like this. If I turn the edges in
> another direction, the surface will become
> unsmooth.



oh and isn't that Enzojz Mp4-20 shaped by Wai ?

I really hope that both of you Nicola and Enzojz really can solve this thing.

I only hope Nicola for a public apologize for his personality attacking, adding a line in the readme, and promise the next time the same thing not happen.

That's not much, facing one's own mistake and admit it is a praiseworthily thing.

Removing his files is not good for the commnuity.

A Racing and Rail fan.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2007 03:01PM by Enzojz.

let me know, do you want also he put down his slips and write in his ass "welcome mate" too?
you are so pathetic, noising and arrogant. every time is the same thing from you. you have eyes poisoned of jelousy and megalomany. people are not stupid and understand that your demostraction in P1 are simply useless and false. You are so sure that the world leeched your works (...) that next step will be accuse me to have @#$%& my girlfriend in a position you used 2 days ago...

get a camomile mate, be quite with yourself and maybe the world will appears better in your eyes

haha W Bobo
come on guys try to find a soulution to
put an end to this "casino"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2007 03:52PM by rosberg91.

@32BOBO32

your judgement is not base on the evidence I supplied.

How do you think of me is nothing with Nicola.

Please stop say words like this. Think with your brain.

The topic of this tread is "Nicola and carshape makers come in".

If any people can judge the truth or false, I any people releasde thire cars, we don't need carshape makers!

from the evidence I supplid on P2, it has been obviously Nicola is using my shape.

All he has done is attacking me and kicking me out!

A Racing and Rail fan.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2007 03:56PM by Enzojz.

i cannot enzo, also my brain is leeched from your one..


ah... as an Italian i want a your public apologies for using "Enzo" name.... Can you demostate me you use it after you invented? Do you have every step of the writing of the word? Or is it simply leeched?

from the evidence I supplid on P2, it has been obviously Nicola is using my shape.

All he has done is attacking me and kicking me out.

I will not reply you anymore in this tread. You words are not useful to help the problem out.

A Racing and Rail fan.

te problem is into your mind mate. try with a psychologist.
and stop to edit your post... it is not nice

With a sig like that, how can you possibly say that you don`t think you`re superior to everyone else !!.

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