tex quality

i'm working on some tex stuff and i need opinions

DXT is a lossy format so there will always be a little bit of 'bleeding'
i'm fiddling with downsampling and now i wonder what would be best

here you can see 2 different algorithms used.
these are the results after 2 downsamples:
Gp4master



Mine


it looks like gp4master tries to sharpen the textures a bit.
personally i think my method is nicer, but i want opinions.
so give them :P

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

I always do a manual downsampling so yours is the best out of those

I think that your method looks better .

ah yeah, I've just remembered something

GP4Master uses a Resize filter, while you can use a Resample filter to smoothen edges

Briere Wrote:
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> I always do a manual downsampling so yours is the
> best out of those
>
cool.
but this is not a 'manual' downsample it is being done by a new tex proggy

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

whooooo a new tex proggy huh ;-O
anyway i dont know how to maual downsample

nice work ZaZ liking ur work

*agrees with whatever zaz is trying to do*

Mini Maestro Wrote:
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> anyway i dont know how to maual downsample
>

it's quite simple really

1- Open your TGA in your favourite painting program (I use Photoshop)
2- Resize it to half its original size
3- Save as whatever name you may think of and choose 32 bits
4- Resize once again to half, and repeat step 3.
5- Repeat steps 2 and 3 one more time
6- Open GP4Master and go in Tex Workshop
7- Open the tex you downsampled
8- Load every single tga to the mipmap corresponding to its resolution.
9- Save your tex, and you're done

If you use Photoshop, you will clearly see that GP4Master uses Nearest filter wich is the worst method but at least, GP4Master creates the four lods in a button click when you need several operations to save 4 tga files with Photoshop and then import them in GP4Master. Anyhow the later is better.

Whao!!! Finally I hear some news about this project!!!
And I have to say that the second downsampled texture looks abslutely great!!!
Keep it up, ZaZ!!! This is the TEX Editor I have always been waiting for!!

thanks, but its not just a tex editor

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

And what the hell is, then? Gp5?!?

wow, a new tex program, thats great.

your method certainly looks better.

i too am sick of doing the downsamples separately. although i use a batch/automate command in photoshop to generate the downsamples automatically, i still have to put each one in to gpmaster individually.

a couple of suggestions:

could you have the program automatically set the "tex size" to match the size of the .tga used. (ie not have to use tex resizer)

would it be possible to have the program set the type of tex file ie dxt5 or dxt1 or (hopefully) dxt1 with transparency.(as done by lo2k's tex resizer)

yes and yes

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

that's not a program, that's a marvel

track texture editing will not be as time consuming now yay!!!!
and thanks briere

ok thats sounds bloody impressive
top work.

Wooooooooooooooohhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
This is a dream becoming true!!!

looks good zaz

cant wait to hear more about the project

i'll send you an audio tape then :P

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy