More On The Blurry Lines
Posted by Bernie The Bolt
I was looking at B-Tone's '67 Mod when I spotted this.
Look at the lines in pitlane and you can see that they have been given the GP4 Blurred treatment, yet the lines on the side of the track haven't.
Any thoughts?
the grid markings are tho
If they are not downsampled the same way, then it might not blur them
Can someone try this:
open the line/tarmac/whatever textures in GP4Master. Export the largest TEX to TGA format. Import that TGA over all the smaller TEXs (so they are forced to enlarge). Save the tex (without downsampling) and run it again. I dont know what or where the textures are or what they are called, so you might have to do some digging around to find them
Racing Is Life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting
Jesus may be able to heal the sick and bring the dead back to life, but he can't do shît for low fps
Can someone try this:
open the line/tarmac/whatever textures in GP4Master. Export the largest TEX to TGA format. Import that TGA over all the smaller TEXs (so they are forced to enlarge). Save the tex (without downsampling) and run it again. I dont know what or where the textures are or what they are called, so you might have to do some digging around to find them
Racing Is Life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting
Jesus may be able to heal the sick and bring the dead back to life, but he can't do shît for low fps
the trackside lines are part of the edge tex.
just like GP3, which has [track name]_edge.jam as a texture for the track edge, GP4 uses the trackside textures to put the trackside lines on the track
I'm very tired atm, so if you dont understand me, well, state it below
Post Edited (12-11-03 05:13)
just like GP3, which has [track name]_edge.jam as a texture for the track edge, GP4 uses the trackside textures to put the trackside lines on the track
I'm very tired atm, so if you dont understand me, well, state it below
Post Edited (12-11-03 05:13)
You're right Caelen,
Track edge lines are .tex files and benefit from 3D Hardware display, whereas track markings are in a .jip file (that might still be computed in software by GP4's engine as for GP3).
Track edge lines are .tex files and benefit from 3D Hardware display, whereas track markings are in a .jip file (that might still be computed in software by GP4's engine as for GP3).
Bigj, can i ask you where you find this sentence ? cause it's the answer to an important question about transparent textures(on wich i worked some days ago).
It explains the reason of GP4 bugs, overlapping transparent textures in front of any other texture. You can check that bug at interlagos with glasses of right tribunes in the last long left curve or at Melbourne, looking at the bridge with black glasses on the starting lane.
Using tex instead of jip can be done with 3DEditor.
For now, you need to transform an existing square surface, replacing its texture and putting it at the good place but in a near future, i will add a function to create a new quad face and it will be even easier to add such things as grid lines/adverts/shadows and whatever else you could imagine you can do with a square surface
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PS: of course, you will need to delete software jip markings, but it's yet easy to do with 3DEditor.
Post Edited (12-11-03 12:07)
It explains the reason of GP4 bugs, overlapping transparent textures in front of any other texture. You can check that bug at interlagos with glasses of right tribunes in the last long left curve or at Melbourne, looking at the bridge with black glasses on the starting lane.
Using tex instead of jip can be done with 3DEditor.
For now, you need to transform an existing square surface, replacing its texture and putting it at the good place but in a near future, i will add a function to create a new quad face and it will be even easier to add such things as grid lines/adverts/shadows and whatever else you could imagine you can do with a square surface
.PS: of course, you will need to delete software jip markings, but it's yet easy to do with 3DEditor.
Post Edited (12-11-03 12:07)
isn't it possible to edit the distace of downsampling such things in your f1gfx.ini ?
Is'nt this the same problem Lampert is facing with his amazing 2003 track retexturing??? In another post a solution was not found.
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It seems clear however that AA does not cure the problem.
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It seems clear however that AA does not cure the problem.
Yes, it's still the same problem, but as written above and as bigj suggested, there's a workaround to this matter for short lines and markings.
For long lines, this solution is also possible but it will need more work as we won't work on 1 quad (square surface) anymore but on many ones.
Post Edited (12-12-03 08:00)
For long lines, this solution is also possible but it will need more work as we won't work on 1 quad (square surface) anymore but on many ones.
Post Edited (12-12-03 08:00)
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