pitlap editor

i installed melbourne 2012, and updated this track with new magic data. All cars should be on 2 pitstop strategy according my magic data file and pitlap editor however when i start the race some cars are still on 1 pitstop strategy??? How is this possible?

Ditto for me, I was going to post the very same question, I tested for a while but gave up out of frustration.

think I'm doing it right....



F1Dev

Are you doing a 100% race? If so, what are the amount of laps?

When you import the same magic data with C-Magic, do you have the same problem?

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Yes, 100 % 58 laps, How does the CMagic thing work when using CSM ? It all seems a bit over convoluted. How do you allow for 50% race ?

F1Dev

When I "Import Defaults" using TSM does the info come from the circuits.dat or the GP4.exe ?

EDIT: Right it comes from the exe afai can tell

F1Dev



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2013 04:11PM by ramf1v.

I think I'll leave this alone and wait for Lo2k to add the function to builder ,otherwise I'll turn this forum blue....

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It'll be so much easier editing the .dat file directly, makes sense really, I'm not stupid, I just don't get why something so straightforward should be so nerdishly over complex.
I'm just thinking of new users and stuff like this putting people off.

F1Dev

Hmm, actually I think I've figured out the problem, If you start the game with CSM then go to the ingame options and drag the race length slider from 20% to 100% the problem with 2 stops occurs.
If you start the game with CSM set the race length to 100%, quit and restart via CSM, the race length is set at 100% and everything works as it should.

So to conclude, set the race length to 100% "before" you run the game after editing magic data, and all should be ok....I think

sorry for my impatience

EDIT: I'm sure there was a mod kicking around that you could set all this up with the CSM menu. but can't remember where I saw it, maybe that's the ultimate solution. ?

F1Dev



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2013 05:07PM by ramf1v.

but i'm not using csm and i still have this problem. i changed the settings in Tgp4 magic file (2 stops for all cars) but when is start melbourne 2012 some cars still have 1 pitstop, other 2 and even a few cars 3 pitstops?

[GP4 magic file]

FrontWing Player Dry=18
RearWing Player Dry=16
1stGear Player Dry=23
2ndGear Player Dry=29
3rdGear Player Dry=36
4thGear Player Dry=43
5thGear Player Dry=50
6thGear Player Dry=57
FrontWing Player Wet=20
RearWing Player Wet=20
1stGear Player Wet=21
2ndGear Player Wet=27
3rdGear Player Wet=34
4thGear Player Wet=41
5thGear Player Wet=48
6thGear Player Wet=55
FrontWing AI Dry=18
RearWing AI Dry=16
1stGear AI Dry=23
2ndGear AI Dry=29
3rdGear AI Dry=36
4thGear AI Dry=43
5thGear AI Dry=50
6thGear AI Dry=57
FrontWing AI Wet=20
RearWing AI Wet=20
1stGear AI Wet=21
2ndGear AI Wet=27
3rdGear AI Wet=34
4thGear AI Wet=41
5thGear AI Wet=48
6thGear AI Wet=55
Brake Balance Dry=5688
Brake Balance Wet=5738
Hard tyre=54
Soft tyre=53
Tyre type=100
Track grip=17552
DownForce=24
Ride height=1018
Fuel=8999
AI Grip=64768
AI Grip finetune=512
Power factor Ace=500
Grip factor Ace=509
Power factor Pro=500
Grip factor Pro=495
Power factor Semi-Pro=490
Grip factor Semi-Pro=481
Power factor Amateur=473
Grip factor Amateur=472
Power factor Rookie=455
Grip factor Rookie=460
Random performance Range min=512
Random performance Range max=2048
AI Errors=47
Spin recovery range=64
Sectors to pit in begin=2
Sectors to pit in end=19
Pre pit speed limit=20480
Fuel consumption Player=15215
Fuel consumption AI=15215
Tyre wear=15453
AI Race performance=1000
Weather percentage=10
AI Race grip=256
AI Tyres=15400
Black flag penalty=10000
Black flag=2048
Group 1 Pitstop=0
Group 1 stop 1=0
Group 1 Pit window 1=0
Group 2 Pitstop=100
Group 2 stop 1=15
Group 2 Pit window 1=7
Group 2 stop 2=38
Group 2 Pit window 2=7
Group 3 Pitstop=0
Group 3 stop 1=0
Group 3 Pit window 1=0
Group 3 stop 2=0
Group 3 Pit window 2=0
Group 3 stop 3=0
Group 3 Pit window 3=0
Failure chance suspension=30
Failure chance loose wheel=30
Failure chance puncture=30
Failure chance engine=30
Failure chance transmision=30
Failure chance oil/water leak=30
Failure chance throttle/brake=30
Failure chance electrics=30
Box Position=0
Garage Car Distance from pitlane=1814
Garage Car Distance from pitlane2=896
Garage Car orientation=0
[GP4INFO]
Laps=58
Split1=362
Split2=667
[BUMPTABLE]
Val1=41,1
Val2=73,0
Val3=274,1
Val4=293,0
Val5=329,2
Val6=361,0
Val7=864,2
Val8=880,0

Hi
I think I know the solution and this is what I did. I opened .dat file using GP4 builder and changed the number of laps as zero. Then I opened the lap and pit editor and updated the number of laps I wanted to have in the race and also changed the pitstops as 2 for 50% of cars and 3 for the other 50% and it worked for me in the game.

lalboy Schreef:
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> Hi
> I think I know the solution and this is what I
> did. I opened .dat file using GP4 builder and
> changed the number of laps as zero. Then I opened
> the lap and pit editor and updated the number of
> laps I wanted to have in the race and also changed
> the pitstops as 2 for 50% of cars and 3 for the
> other 50% and it worked for me in the game.

how can i edit the number of laps in gp4 builder?

You can't edit the no. of laps in GP4 builder. You should download pit&lap editor tool from Ale's page website. After downloading open the editor and click on import data from GP4 and the default number of laps for full race of all the tracks would be displayed. Since you have replaced the original melbourne track with the updated one the icon for melbourne would shown as red (modified) instead of green. Just choose the melbourne track which would show the default pitstops and the percentage of cars. You have to just change the no. of laps you want to have, percentage of cars and pitstops you would want to be done (one, two or three pitstops) and also within how many laps the pitstops should be done. After that just click on the export button on top and close the editor. but keep in mind you have to open the .dat file with GP4 builder and update the number of laps as zero before using using pit & lap editor. This will work if you have inserted the dat file directly into GP4 folder circuits folder. I'm sure it would work.

I think it's much easier to use GPxTrack to edit the number of laps. E.g. for Melbourne:

S1CT01.txt

[Tags]
Laps=58
Name=Albert Park
Country=Australia
Adjective=Australian 
Year=2001
LengthMeters=5302
LapRecord=1:30.585, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Williams, 12-03-2000
LapRecordQualify=1:29.369, Jacques Villeneuve, Williams, 11-03-2000

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lalboy Schreef:
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> You can't edit the no. of laps in GP4 builder. You
> should download pit&lap editor tool from Ale's
> page website. After downloading open the editor
> and click on import data from GP4 and the default
> number of laps for full race of all the tracks
> would be displayed. Since you have replaced the
> original melbourne track with the updated one the
> icon for melbourne would shown as red (modified)
> instead of green. Just choose the melbourne track
> which would show the default pitstops and the
> percentage of cars. You have to just change the
> no. of laps you want to have, percentage of cars
> and pitstops you would want to be done (one, two
> or three pitstops) and also within how many laps
> the pitstops should be done. After that just click
> on the export button on top and close the editor.
> but keep in mind you have to open the .dat file
> with GP4 builder and update the number of laps as
> zero before using using pit & lap editor. This
> will work if you have inserted the dat file
> directly into GP4 folder circuits folder. I'm sure
> it would work.


i did exactly what you wrote but still no changes at all.

I would like to know if you have inserted the melbourne 2012 wad and dat file directly into the GP4 folder or are you using TSM to lead the track?

yes i did, i'm not using tsm.

when i use the original melbourne track i have no problem via pitlap editor to change the pitstop stratgey but when i try another track i have?

I would like to know if the Melbourne track icon in pit&lap editor is in red colour. If possible could you please post a screenshot of the editor after inserting the track in gp4 folder. I played with Melbourne 2012 track yesterday and it worked for me. Also try opening the editor as administrator and make changes and see if it is working.