Raikkonen to Williams?
Posted by danm
danm Wrote:
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> Other drivers seems to waltz past him on their
> day, yet Schumacher seems to be able to fend for
> himself.
Well that's probably because of their respective qualifying performances rather than anything else.
Anyway, you wouldn't have thought Rosberg could hold back Hamilton for so many laps at Monza like Schumacher did. He's a little more passive, and Schumacher's probably the most aggressive out there, which exaggerates the difference in styles between them.
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> Other drivers seems to waltz past him on their
> day, yet Schumacher seems to be able to fend for
> himself.
Well that's probably because of their respective qualifying performances rather than anything else.
Anyway, you wouldn't have thought Rosberg could hold back Hamilton for so many laps at Monza like Schumacher did. He's a little more passive, and Schumacher's probably the most aggressive out there, which exaggerates the difference in styles between them.
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Very true.
I never thought about a Massa/Rosberg swap though.
The way Ferrari are being quoted at the moment make it sound like they are hesitant to 'honour Massa's contract for 2012'.
As though they are doing it because it was promised, not sounding at all like they are keen to, more so they 'have to'.
Maybe I am reading it incorrectly.
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I never thought about a Massa/Rosberg swap though.
The way Ferrari are being quoted at the moment make it sound like they are hesitant to 'honour Massa's contract for 2012'.
As though they are doing it because it was promised, not sounding at all like they are keen to, more so they 'have to'.
Maybe I am reading it incorrectly.
Massa's pace has actually been quite good in recent rounds, and probably the best it's been all year, it's just he's getting caught up in too many incidents (most of them not being his fault).
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Ohhh yeah! The truth will be out sooner or later! :D
Jenson drives it like he owns it; Lewis drives it like he stole it
Ohhh yeah! The truth will be out sooner or later! :D
I could see kimi at williams but as stated already, it would only be out of desperation on both parties. As stated by Jim and I agree whole heartedly. The question is why? Williams, short of finding and employing Adrian Newey's clone are probably not going to make too many leap forwards for some time. Kimi wont help, he's not that sort of driver. Give him the car all packaged for battle and he'll drive the wheels off of it but anything less and he'll just 'clockin' 'clock out' and find the nearest night club ..... good luck on that one.
I dont think Rosberg is going any where ... German driver, German team, why? He's comfortable with the team and Shumi or at least that is what he has implied. What is the point in going some where else to start over. Money will not play a factor as I dont believe that there will be that much bidding over him. Not that he is not good because he is but the teams that would probably negotiate already have thier slots filled.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/03/2011 03:38PM by Isaint.
I dont think Rosberg is going any where ... German driver, German team, why? He's comfortable with the team and Shumi or at least that is what he has implied. What is the point in going some where else to start over. Money will not play a factor as I dont believe that there will be that much bidding over him. Not that he is not good because he is but the teams that would probably negotiate already have thier slots filled.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/03/2011 03:38PM by Isaint.
An announcement in Abu Dhabi would be logical due to the Qatari connection, although it may be just some journalists using logic rather than any truth.
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I don't think it's desperation on either side. Kimi would clearly like to be driving in F1 again, with the emphasis on the driving bit. Williams would be crazy not to jump at the chance of having a driver of his calibre in one of their cars.
From what I can see it would be a win win situation for everybody if it happens.
From what I can see it would be a win win situation for everybody if it happens.
EC83 Wrote:
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> I don't think it's desperation on either side.
> Kimi would clearly like to be driving in F1 again,
> with the emphasis on the driving bit. Williams
> would be crazy not to jump at the chance of having
> a driver of his calibre in one of their cars.
> From what I can see it would be a win win
> situation for everybody if it happens.
Your right desperation is probably the wrong word. And I would say that williams definitely need a driver of some caliber but I 'm sorry if this disappoints but I don't really think that kimi will set the track on fire.
Yes he wants to drive but only because he's made a mess of rallying .... and he wasn't that missed from F1 (none too reliable ).
Don't really see the benefit to williams, app-art from, another Shumacher scenario i.e. slow car quick driver.
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2011 11:06AM by Isaint.
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> I don't think it's desperation on either side.
> Kimi would clearly like to be driving in F1 again,
> with the emphasis on the driving bit. Williams
> would be crazy not to jump at the chance of having
> a driver of his calibre in one of their cars.
> From what I can see it would be a win win
> situation for everybody if it happens.
Your right desperation is probably the wrong word. And I would say that williams definitely need a driver of some caliber but I 'm sorry if this disappoints but I don't really think that kimi will set the track on fire.
Yes he wants to drive but only because he's made a mess of rallying .... and he wasn't that missed from F1 (none too reliable ).
Don't really see the benefit to williams, app-art from, another Shumacher scenario i.e. slow car quick driver.
" Perfection is not a gift ....... it comes with practice."
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/04/2011 11:06AM by Isaint.
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LOL
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Renault engines will still be Renault engines and branded as such. "Lotus" have no involvement in the engines and nor does the Enstone based team as it is now longer owned by Renault and hasn't been for the past 2 seasons. They are a Renault customer, as are Red Bull, Caterham (team Lotus) and soon to be Williams.
Renault have been soley an engine supplier in F1 for 2 years now.
Renault have been soley an engine supplier in F1 for 2 years now.
If you ask me, the Raikkonen deal is likely to be for one year onlly.
Even then, one season is a WIN for Williams. Sponsors. An ex champ. Media. It's good for them (and Frank) if he decides to sell, also.
But for Kimi... it is also a win.
Everything is shifting around after the 2012 season, and I think this is Kimi's way of seeing what he has left in him, and if he still has it, what he can do in regards to 2013.
If he sucks, he will suck in an expected midfield team. Nothing really to lose, but everything to gain. P10 qualifying will be a WIN for Williams or Kimi.
But...
There are spaces at more or less EVERY team when the 2012 flag closes, and if Kimi put's in a respectable season in the Williams, I think his eyes are sitting further in hope of a better team realising he has it still and signing him on.
I am thinking his eyes are surely on Red Bull in Webbers seat; or Lewis' at McLaren.
Jenson drives it like he owns it; Lewis drives it like he stole it
Even then, one season is a WIN for Williams. Sponsors. An ex champ. Media. It's good for them (and Frank) if he decides to sell, also.
But for Kimi... it is also a win.
Everything is shifting around after the 2012 season, and I think this is Kimi's way of seeing what he has left in him, and if he still has it, what he can do in regards to 2013.
If he sucks, he will suck in an expected midfield team. Nothing really to lose, but everything to gain. P10 qualifying will be a WIN for Williams or Kimi.
But...
There are spaces at more or less EVERY team when the 2012 flag closes, and if Kimi put's in a respectable season in the Williams, I think his eyes are sitting further in hope of a better team realising he has it still and signing him on.
I am thinking his eyes are surely on Red Bull in Webbers seat; or Lewis' at McLaren.
Well Ravioli Maldonaldo is safe as long as PDVSA or whatever it is stay.
what is maldonados contract? Has his presence even confirmed, other than sponsorship? If pdvsa leave, or are bought out, he leaves, right?
Jenson drives it like he owns it; Lewis drives it like he stole it
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