What tracks would be in your ideal F1 calendar?

Hi guys! I'm from Hungary and I'm a long time F1 fan. I'm 21 and I was only 7 when I saw Villeneuve and Hill battle it out for the lead in the 1996 Australian Grand Prix. I watched every race since then. I know Grandprixgames.org for long as I have played with GP2, GP3 and GP4 as well but I only followed the GP4 topic here up until now. I sought a forum where I can discuss the past and recent events of F1 with an international community so expect me to write quite a lot here from now on as well.

So much for a brief introduction.

My first question I'm curious about is your ideal F1 calendar with say up to 20 races. Lately I was very fond of the history of the circuits. Maybe this has been discussed before but anyway... This is my first topic and maybe there are others who want to share their views as well.

So at first sight I would include these.

- Silverstone pre-1975 without the Woodcote chicane.
- Brands Hatch without the chicanes.
- Donington Park pre-2010.
- Paul Ricard original, with the longest Mistral possible.
- Hockenheim pre-1968 again without the chicanes.
- Nürburgring. Yeah again the oldest one.
- Monza pre-1972.
- Spa 1983 but with the old, not straightened Eau Rouge. Now that corner had something special.
- Österreichring, old version.
- Monte-Carlo. Again... old version with flattened St. Devote, old chicane and without the Piscine complex.
- Watkins Glen without the chicane before that U-turn.
- Suzuka 1983 WITH the first version of the chicane OR... without it. :D
- Interlagos pre-1990.

These are probably the greatest venues of all time it would be great to see a race on them again with proper safety measures, etc.

I would also include Kyalami, Zandvoort, Hermanos Rodriguez, and maybe Montréal and Buenos Aires as well but I don't know much of the history of these tracks.

Now up to you. Which ones would you choose? Feel free to let us know.

Il'd love to have a calendar consisting of all the Tilke modified tracks, then them all in reverse just to make it up the numbers.

Seriously though, many people look through rose tinted glasses for the older tracks, most of them would be terrible now!

Only circuit I would add though would be the Birmingham SuperPrix! I could have F1 on my doorstep then

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matt3454 Wrote:
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> Il'd love to have a calendar consisting of all the
> Tilke modified tracks, then them all in reverse
> just to make it up the numbers.
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> Seriously though, many people look through rose
> tinted glasses for the older tracks, most of them
> would be terrible now!
>
> Only circuit I would add though would be the
> Birmingham SuperPrix! I could have F1 on my
> doorstep then

Yeah, would be really nice to have a race near where you live. I have a racetrack in my town, but it's way too short for F1.

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Firstly, kudos on your English. It is excellent

Anyway, I disagree with Matt above saying most would be terrible now - they just need tweaking.

I personally would love F1 to go to Laguna Seca, there is no reason why the pits cannot be updated a little, it would save having to have the Tilke-fest that is Austin. And it's in California, so it suits Bernie fine.

We have an awesome new circuit in the Algarve, Portugal which is just sitting there. So we could use that.

I love old street circuits like Adelaide and Detroit, we could bring them back, or perhaps Surfer's Paradise? Too many in Australia now though :P

Oh the old schools, Kyalami was a great track, so was Paul Ricard but I think that one would be boring now cause it's been too sterilised.


For now my main concern is keeping Suzuka on the calender, it is an amazing track but its future is not looking good

Anyway, here would be the perfect calender -


Melbourne
Interlagos
Imola
Portimão
Zandvoort
Monaco
Montreal
Detroit
Laguna Seca
Silverstone
Hockenheim
Monza
Spa
Kyalami
Singapore
Abu Dhabi
Suzuka
Adelaide


Yes there are two Australian and US GPs. Deal with it!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2010 01:02PM by loque.

This would probably be my perfect calendar;

Albert Park
Sepang
Kyalami
Algarve
Istanbul
Monaco
Montreal
Road America
Le Mans (full 24h track)
Silverstone
Hockenheim (pre-2001)
Hungaroring
Monza
Spa
Singapore
Suzuka
Potrero de los Funes
Interlagos

I think that would be a nice calendar, taking in every inhabited continent while focusing on the traditional fanbases of F1 - with some great circuits/events as well.

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One track that i would really love to have back is the old Kyalami... that straight leading to the first corner was amazing...
Hockenheim (pre-2002) would be nice too... so...

Old Kyalami
Melbourne
Algarve
Jarama
Monte Carlo
Istanbul
Montreal
Laguna Seca
Mexico City
Silverstone
Dijon
Hockenheim (pre-2002)
Spa-Francorchamps
Zandvoort
Monza
Fuji (i hate Suzuka)
Interlagos

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Gigi4 Wrote:
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> matt3454 Wrote:
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> > Il'd love to have a calendar consisting of all
> the
> > Tilke modified tracks, then them all in reverse
> > just to make it up the numbers.
> >
> > Seriously though, many people look through rose
> > tinted glasses for the older tracks, most of
> them
> > would be terrible now!
> >
> > Only circuit I would add though would be the
> > Birmingham SuperPrix! I could have F1 on my
> > doorstep then
>
> Yeah, would be really nice to have a race near
> where you live. I have a racetrack in my town, but
> it's way too short for F1.

do i need to talk about the nearest circuit from my town?Binetto(Autodromo del Levante-1577m)?at least Magione is 3km more or less

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NeoLiot Wrote:
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> Fuji (i hate Suzuka)

Blasphemy!

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SchueyFan Wrote:
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> NeoLiot Wrote:
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> Blasphemy!


What's to hate? :/

It was designed by the same dude as Hockenheim, Zolder and Jarama, and Zandvoort, well not designed, but he was "involved" with Zandvoort.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2010 06:24PM by loque.

Argentina (Buenos Aires but using the circuit 15 layout, the last used in f1 was awful)
Brazil (Interlagos)
South Africa (old Kyalami)
San Marino (Imola)
Spain (Jarama)
Monaco
France (Clermont-Ferrand)
GB (80s Silverstone)
Sweden (Anderstorp)
Germany (Nordschleife)
Austria (Osterreichring but as it dont exist anymore, salzburgring)
Netherlands (Zandvoort)
Belgium (Spa)
Italy (Monza)
Portugal (Algarve)
USA (Homestead-Miami Road course)
Canada (Montreal)
Japan (Suzuka)
Australia (Adelaide)

good bye Tilke

loque Wrote:
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> SchueyFan Wrote:
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> > > Fuji (i hate Suzuka)
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> > Blasphemy!
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> What's to hate? :/
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> It was designed by the same dude as Hockenheim,
> Zolder and Jarama, and Zandvoort, well not
> designed, but he was "involved" with Zandvoort.

i don't know... every single person thinks suzuka is an awesome, technical circuit... i just find it boring... with boring races

at least in Fuji it rains every time, what makes racing there interesting...

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My ideal calendar would be this (in this order)
1) Adelaide
2) Long Beach / Watkins Glen
3) Imola
4) Nürburgring
5) Montecarlo
6) A1-Ring (I think it's now called the Red Bull Ring)
7) Donington Park
8) Magny-Cours
9) Valencia Street Circuit
10) Hungaroring
11) Spa-Francorchamps
12) Monza
13) Istanbul Park
14) Shanghai
15) Singapore
16) Suzuka
17) Interlagos



Stats: 139 Starts / 7 Wins / 9 Poles / 5 Fastest laps

Hummm... good one! Let me try. Not in order of preference.

All tracks 2010 status.

1. Phillip Island
2. Spa-Francorchamps
3. Suzuka
4. Hockenheim
5. Interlagos
6. Silverstone
7. Monaco
8. Singapore
9. Turkey
10. Montreal
11. Magny-cours
12. Shanghai
13. Jerez
14. Monza
15. Algarve
16. Fuji
17. Sepang
18. Melbourne
19. Paul Ricard
20. Doha by night

Here's mine It's split in two segments
with testing
T1: Korea
T2: valencia*
T3: Jerez Iguess
T4: BRNO

Winter:
1: U.S.A. gp in Watkins Glen (Boot of course), NY USA
2: Mexican GP in Mexico City raceway (Hermanos Rodreguez?) Mexico
3: Malay GP in Sepang, Malasia
4: Spanish GP in Valencia, Spain
5: Redbull-Austrian GP at the RedBullA1 Ring, Austria
6: Monaco GP at the Cote` de Azur, Monte carlo
7: French GP at Bugatti in La Sarthe/LeMans, France Or Paul Recard
8: British GP at Brands Hatch
9: North American GP at Laguna Seca or Infinion
10: Canadian GP at Circuit Gilles Villnuve? Montreal
11: Chinese GP in Shanghai, China

break
Summer:
12: Mobil-German GP at the Nurburgring
13: Namco-Pacific GP at Fuji
14: European GP at Zandvoort
15: African GP at Kylami, South Africa
16: Brazilian GP at Interlagos, Brazil
17: South American GP in Argentina
18: Australian GP in Albert Park, Australia
19: Asian GP at Singapore
20: Italian GP at the NEW Monzanapolis Monza, Italy
21: Belgian GP at Spa Francorchamps , Belgium
21: Middle Eastern GP in Abu Dhabi
22: Grand Finale: Namco-Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, Japan

that's how I'd do it.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2010 08:54AM by SpaceManMonster.

1. Brazilian Grand Prix- Interlagos
2. Malaysian Grand Prix- Sepang
3. San Marino Grand Prix- Imola
4. Spanish Grand Prix- Barcelona
5. Monaco Grand Prix- Monte Carlo
6. Canadian Grand Prix- Montreal
7. French Grand Prix- Mangy-Cours
8. British Grand Prix- Sliverstone
9. German Grand Prix- Nürburgring
10. Hungarian Grand Prix- Hungaroring
11. Belgium Grand Prix- Spa-Francorchamps
12. Italian Grand Prix- Monza
13. Korean Grand Prix- Yeongam
14. Portuguese Grand Prix- Estoril
15. Austrian Grand Prix- A1 Ring
16. Japanese Grand Prix- Suzuka
17. Australian Grand Prix- Adelaide

Assuming the tracks would not be butchered for safety regulations, this is easy! The problem with my choices is half of the series would be in the US

European Season

1 - Silverstone (UK)
2 - Brands Hatch (UK)
3 - Spa (Belgium)
4 - Monza (Italy)
5 - Algarve (Portugal)

North American Season

6 - Watkins Glen (US)
7 - Virginia International Raceway (US)
8 - Sebring (US)
9 - Road Atlanta (US)
10 - Detroit Belle Isle (US)
11 - Road America (US)
12 - Long Beach (US)
13 - Montreal (Canada)

Asian Season

14 - Yas Marina Circuit (Abu Dhabi)
15 - Marina Bay (Singapore)
16 - Suzuka (Japan)

South American Season

19 - Lago Potrero de los Funes (Argentina)
20 - Interlagos (Brazil)

Australian Season

19 - Surfers Paradise (Australia)
20 - Adelaide (Australia)

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Wow I thought this topic was dead because the replies came slowly at first glance.

loque Wrote:
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> Firstly, kudos on your English. It is excellent
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Well thank you.

Some of you pointed out a few tracks I missed by chance for example Laguna Seca and Portimao which I love as well.

Mainly to the guy with the first answer: it's not that I hate all the tracks which are included in the present calendars because there are good ones as well - Istanbul is not that bad, Singapore has the character, etc. - it's just that if I could choose 16 track, 16 of my personal favourites than those would be on the list mentioned above.

Digging deeper into the Brazilian Grand Prix weekend I chose to do a few laps on the old Interlagos circuit in a modded Grand Prix 4 and it was breathtaking. Blatantly fast, sweeping curves and you really got to have balls to negotiate some corners right - especially the first two. It was fantastic. I think the present layout is one of the highlights of this season but it's still just a mere shadow of the old one.

If you're counting old tracks, then there are/were zillions of the things which are better than we have currently.

Rouen. The old Zandvoort. The old Silverstone (though atypically it had morphed into a similarly good layout over time - though I'm still not convinced by the 2010 alterations yet). The old Monaco of 10 years ago is 100 times better than the comparably pansied version we have now, and the 50s and 60s version better still. Monza was better a decade ago and better still the further back you go. Spa, though still excellent, is again worse than the one from a decade ago, which again is a shadow of the 60s and 70s version. The Osterreichring. Kyalami (the old one). Mosport. Watkins. Anderstorp would be mental in a modern F1 car.

Anyone (Matt) who thinks that the above (and most of the tracks we've lost in the past 20 years) are worse than 80% of what we currently have needs to have a go at GPL or any decent game which features historic layouts.

i think my calendar would be this:

1-Melbourne-Australia
2-Sepang-Malesya
3-Mugello-Italy
4-Hockeneim pre 2002-Germany
5-Barcelona-Spain
6-Brands Hatch-England
7-Laguna Seca-USA
8-Silverstone pre 2010-England
9-Imola-San Marino
10-Montreal-Canada
11-MagnyCours-France
12-Yeongan-Korea
13-Spa-Belgium
14-Monza-Italy
15-Valencia Ricardo Tormo-Spain
16-Suzuka-Japan
17-Fuji-Japan
18-Nurburgring-Germany
19-Interlagos-Brasil

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