2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***

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Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 29, 2010 03:51PM
Posted by: J i m
In other news BBC's Sarah Holt suspects a new front wing for McLaren. "hmmmmm".

Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 29, 2010 04:03PM
Posted by: rapid_f1
if u had weights at the ends of the front wing, at high speed would those ends not droop more than the middle?

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Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 29, 2010 04:13PM
Posted by: marcl
I would not have thought Mclaren would have enough time to get a new wing ready.
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 29, 2010 04:33PM
Posted by: J i m
Well it might have been a development in progress since before hockenheim and the Darren Heath pictures.

Darren Heath seems to have a habit of exposing this kind of trickery :P

Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 29, 2010 04:43PM
Posted by: marcl
Well mclaren only said yesterday they could not work out what the others were doing and mclaren only got a new wing a few weeks back. They will probably have a high downforce one but probably not a flexi one.
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 29, 2010 05:26PM
Posted by: Slash
even if they managed a "flexi" one, it needs to past FIA inspections first before going on action.

it'll probably give them an idea on what direction to go with the "flexi" one



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Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 29, 2010 07:29PM
Posted by: chet
It's certainly no f-dcuct of EBD so should be on the car soon enough. With this track having corner exits as entries to the next, I imagine such a device would be quite benificial!!






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Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 29, 2010 09:17PM
Posted by: rapid_f1
hk in the press conf fcuk sake grow some balls, just give abn opinion and when questioned about letting lewis thru in 08 he doesnt remember...he shud do that was about all he ever did in a mclaren other than fluke a win

good on robert and rubens for giving their differeing opinions.

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Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 12:40AM
Posted by: LS.
J i m Wrote:
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> So lets put this into perspective... 132Kg is the
> heaviest braking zone at Hungary... there are 70
> laps in the race. This doesn't take into account
> that there other heavyish braking zones, nor
> practice of qualifying.
>
> Damn! I'm only pushing 20Kg in my puny dumbbell
> workouts. I'd be finished less than a sixth way
> through braking for turn 1, and that's not even
> taking into account g-force.


I remember montoya saying that the phrase standing on the brakes means just that, because of the grip from the tyres, added with down force meant that the drivers despite being strapped into the car with a 5 point harness, lifted their bottom off the seat of the car to depress the pedal so hard to get the car to slow down, literally putting the full force of your body weight on to the pedal, hence standing up




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Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:23AM
Posted by: marcl
You can clearly see the front wings moving on the rbr car when watching the on board cam.

Ferrari are not running their version of it this weekend by looks of it.
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:33AM
Posted by: J i m
It's even more visible on the trackside cam. A massive difference to any-other car. But the concept isn't new, they've been using it since last year.

Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:41AM
Posted by: vesuvius
looks like a redbull dominated track again, yay (so far) :)
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:42AM
Posted by: marcl
I thin its interesting in a track that it would give an advantage Ferrari stopped using it. Maybe they will use it again later today.
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:46AM
Posted by: J i m
Friday is more of a test day, most of the teams are doing back to back tests on various bit of areo kit. I doubt Red Bull will remain a second ahead of the chasing pack. But probably still a few tenths.

Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:51AM
Posted by: marcl
This is the Ferrari story on the wings.

[en.espnf1.com]

Many teams are expected to make an offical complaint after this race so it could be why Ferrari opt not to use it.
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:52AM
Posted by: vesuvius
remember that RedBull never does push during practise, they only show their true speed in q3 ;) and they are already only 0,6 seconds from last years fastest time so not bad at all :) I believe they will dominate qualifying maybe not second but clearly enough and btw it was almost 2 seconds to ferrari and 1,5 seconds to mclaren :)
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:55AM
Posted by: vesuvius
marcl Wrote:
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> This is the Ferrari story on the wings.
>
> [en.espnf1.com]
> 2.html
>
> Many teams are expected to make an offical
> complaint after this race so it could be why
> Ferrari opt not to use it.

maybe but the wing has been cleared legal for this race anyway so they can use it and wouldnt get any penalty from it :)
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 11:59AM
Posted by: gav
They still flex less than the McLaren engine cover. ;)
Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 12:02PM
Posted by: marcl
Yeah Gav I did think in Germany the cam was moving all over the place, what is it with that?

Mclarens 3rd pedel in 1998 was passed as legal in Australia and then not Brazil, maybe Ferrari just do not want to take the risk? We will see if they run it this afternoon anyway.

But I agree with you, its passed all the tests so if it is then declared not legal they just wont be able to use it from the next race.



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Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix ***SPOILERS***
Date: July 30, 2010 12:10PM
Posted by: gav
The McLaren engine cover has been that way all season, but it's normally only visible when going over bumps or kerbs - at Hockenheim doubtless be turbulence from the car in front wasn't helping.

The Ferrari wing was clearly flexing more than the McLaren, but then we know the chassis and suspension on the McLaren is incredibly rigid, with lean on turn in, you'd expect it there to be an illusion as to how much the wing moves on the outside side of the car.
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