New points system!
Posted by Qwerty_uk
Good spot, and it shows how spectacularly poorly-considered this system is.
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From that same website, "Formula 1's points scoring system is likely to be radically changed next season under a new scheme proposed by the sport's bosses." So don't take anything for granted yet 
I imagine that the 7th place gap is just a typo as it makes no sense at all. Increasing the win from 10 to 25 points is going to screw up the stats and devalue greats such as Schumacher and Senna so I think that a new section should definitely be started (as in pre 2010 points scored and post 2010 points scored). Even though the relative points of the first three places stay the same, it is interesting that points will now go down to 10th. With today's amazing reliability it's going to be difficult for any of the new teams to score. Even Force India struggled this year (aside from Belgium and Monza) when it was only 8 out of 20 that got points. 8 out of 26 would have been even more difficult so I agree with increasing it to 10 points scorers. Yeah I know we had grids of 26 back in the day and only 6 points scorers, but back then you could get points simply by finishing the race because reliability was so poor. These days with the close field and good finishing rate, you really have to fight for them.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2009 12:30PM by Fincent.
I imagine that the 7th place gap is just a typo as it makes no sense at all. Increasing the win from 10 to 25 points is going to screw up the stats and devalue greats such as Schumacher and Senna so I think that a new section should definitely be started (as in pre 2010 points scored and post 2010 points scored). Even though the relative points of the first three places stay the same, it is interesting that points will now go down to 10th. With today's amazing reliability it's going to be difficult for any of the new teams to score. Even Force India struggled this year (aside from Belgium and Monza) when it was only 8 out of 20 that got points. 8 out of 26 would have been even more difficult so I agree with increasing it to 10 points scorers. Yeah I know we had grids of 26 back in the day and only 6 points scorers, but back then you could get points simply by finishing the race because reliability was so poor. These days with the close field and good finishing rate, you really have to fight for them.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2009 12:30PM by Fincent.
One thing I'd like if this definitely goes ahead is a smaller number of points for the higher positions. Something like what Locke suggested in the other thread, 15-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 or something similar, would be better.
Giving the winner 25 points and 2nd driver 20 - twice as many points for second place as drivers have been awarded for winning up to now! - is over the top. As Fincent says, that would serve to devalue the achievements of Senna and other greats.
Giving the winner 25 points and 2nd driver 20 - twice as many points for second place as drivers have been awarded for winning up to now! - is over the top. As Fincent says, that would serve to devalue the achievements of Senna and other greats.
This is quite a ridiculous change - as the ratio from 1st to 2nd to 3rd stays the same, not much will change at all.
Apparently the 2007 and 2008 championships would still have been decided by 1 point with these new systems - that's how little impact it would have...
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Apparently the 2007 and 2008 championships would still have been decided by 1 point with these new systems - that's how little impact it would have...
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Maybe so, but it also seems weird that they went to 25 for 1st, when they could have got the same result with the idea that EC83 mentioned.
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this sistem is a whole #$%#$% I think. and you guys convinced me the old 9-6-4-3-2-1 its not godd for nowdays so they should put a system like 12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 and there they´re not changing the ratios, neither ruining the stats
so they should put a system like 12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 and there they´re not changing the ratios, neither ruining the statsFrantic Wrote:
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> this sistem is a whole #$%#$% I think. and you
> guys convinced me the old 9-6-4-3-2-1 its not godd
> for nowdays so they should put a system like
> 12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 and there they´re not
> changing the ratios, neither ruining the stats
But the ratios do need tweaking a bit IMO. The gap between 1st and 2nd could do with being increased slightly, relative to the rest.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2009 03:54PM by EC83.
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> this sistem is a whole #$%#$% I think. and you
> guys convinced me the old 9-6-4-3-2-1 its not godd
> for nowdays
so they should put a system like> 12-10-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 and there they´re not
> changing the ratios, neither ruining the stats
But the ratios do need tweaking a bit IMO. The gap between 1st and 2nd could do with being increased slightly, relative to the rest.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2009 03:54PM by EC83.
Niiice.
Well, even if they don't take the opportunity to modify it before the start of the season, they can before 2011.
Let's see what happens.
Well, even if they don't take the opportunity to modify it before the start of the season, they can before 2011.
Let's see what happens.
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