F1 doesn't need British GP - Ecclestone
Posted by madotter
Somehow I doubt the fans would be overly amused by that, what with having a British F1 champ n' all.
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> Bernie Ecclestone insists he is prepared to scrub
> Britain's name from the 2010 calendar if
> Silverstone does not want to pay the going rate
> for its Formula One race.
>
> With Donington's chances now all but over, it had
> been expected that the F1 chief executive might
> move to safeguard the British Grand Prix by
> reaching an alternate deal with the race's
> traditional venue.
>
> But after a Silverstone spokesman said
> Ecclestone's current offer is not "commercially
> viable", the British billionaire hit back: "No one
> is forcing them to take it.
>
> "This is business. We have offered them a deal,"
> he told the Daily Express newspaper. Do we need a
> British Grand Prix? No."
>
> Ecclestone disputes that Silverstone, scene of
> F1's very first world championship event in 1950,
> should enjoy protected status as one of the
> sport's 'traditional' venues.
>
> "Italy is a traditional race because they have
> always raced at Monza," he argued. "Monaco is
> traditional as they have always had the same
> track.
>
> "Britain and France have raced at three different
> circuits. They want a cut-price deal because it is
> traditional. That's not traditional to me. Britain
> is not protected," said Ecclestone.
>
> "I would like a new plane because it's traditional
> as I have had one for 40 years but no one is
> offering me a cheap deal. That's not how it
> works."
>
> Meanwhile, The Times newspaper reports that
> Donington's breach of contract may cost the
> circuit up to 15 million pounds sterling in
> cancellation fees.
>
Ecclestone musts remember that UK and France are traditional countries for f1 races.
I don't understand why he wants a different track layout for donington...
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> Bernie Ecclestone insists he is prepared to scrub
> Britain's name from the 2010 calendar if
> Silverstone does not want to pay the going rate
> for its Formula One race.
>
> With Donington's chances now all but over, it had
> been expected that the F1 chief executive might
> move to safeguard the British Grand Prix by
> reaching an alternate deal with the race's
> traditional venue.
>
> But after a Silverstone spokesman said
> Ecclestone's current offer is not "commercially
> viable", the British billionaire hit back: "No one
> is forcing them to take it.
>
> "This is business. We have offered them a deal,"
> he told the Daily Express newspaper. Do we need a
> British Grand Prix? No."
>
> Ecclestone disputes that Silverstone, scene of
> F1's very first world championship event in 1950,
> should enjoy protected status as one of the
> sport's 'traditional' venues.
>
> "Italy is a traditional race because they have
> always raced at Monza," he argued. "Monaco is
> traditional as they have always had the same
> track.
>
> "Britain and France have raced at three different
> circuits. They want a cut-price deal because it is
> traditional. That's not traditional to me. Britain
> is not protected," said Ecclestone.
>
> "I would like a new plane because it's traditional
> as I have had one for 40 years but no one is
> offering me a cheap deal. That's not how it
> works."
>
> Meanwhile, The Times newspaper reports that
> Donington's breach of contract may cost the
> circuit up to 15 million pounds sterling in
> cancellation fees.
>
Ecclestone musts remember that UK and France are traditional countries for f1 races.
I don't understand why he wants a different track layout for donington...
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I think the current layout was too short, or was impossible to alter to FIA standards (run off areas etc).
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I think Bernie is just outraged that, heaven forbid, the British Grand Prix actually turned a profit this year.
I HATE BERNIE, Why doesn't he just go away and leave our sport alone :@ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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harjinator Wrote:
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> I think the current layout was too short, or was
> impossible to alter to FIA standards (run off
> areas etc).
current layout is around 4km,just 300m shorter then hungaroring and interlagos(i don't say nothing of monaco because it's a city circuit)
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> I think the current layout was too short, or was
> impossible to alter to FIA standards (run off
> areas etc).
current layout is around 4km,just 300m shorter then hungaroring and interlagos(i don't say nothing of monaco because it's a city circuit)
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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> hungaroring is lower speed, so the race lasts
> significalty longer. Donington would be quite high
> speed, so it'd be a short race. I'm sure there is
> a minimum circuit length, I just don't know it.
Donington is/was 2.5 miles with the Melbourne loop extension. The problem there is that 16 years ago the FW15s were lapping at 1:10s in the dry. Todays F1 cars would possibly lap around 1 minute dead. I don't think there's a set minimum length, but 2.5 miles seems a logical one to have provided the circuit's slow enough. Otherwise, Singapore, Malaysia, Bahrain, Istanbul, Abu Dhabi, Valencia all follow the trend of having a circuit at least 3 miles long.
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> hungaroring is lower speed, so the race lasts
> significalty longer. Donington would be quite high
> speed, so it'd be a short race. I'm sure there is
> a minimum circuit length, I just don't know it.
Donington is/was 2.5 miles with the Melbourne loop extension. The problem there is that 16 years ago the FW15s were lapping at 1:10s in the dry. Todays F1 cars would possibly lap around 1 minute dead. I don't think there's a set minimum length, but 2.5 miles seems a logical one to have provided the circuit's slow enough. Otherwise, Singapore, Malaysia, Bahrain, Istanbul, Abu Dhabi, Valencia all follow the trend of having a circuit at least 3 miles long.
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2.5 miles is 4.023 kilometres. Monaco's the exception at 2.09 miles.
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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Maybe it's just me, but I don't care what country
> a GP is hosted in, as long as the circuit rocks.
> If Bahrain was as good as Spa, I'd love it.
See, I don't care about a "British Grand Prix" per se, but I think Silverstone (the circuit) is one of the best tracks in the World, and as such it is a vital part of the F1 calendar. If they re-created the Silverstone layout in Korea, then we wouldn't need a British Grand Prix. But right now, we need Silverstone IMHO - and that means retaining the British race.
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> Maybe it's just me, but I don't care what country
> a GP is hosted in, as long as the circuit rocks.
> If Bahrain was as good as Spa, I'd love it.
See, I don't care about a "British Grand Prix" per se, but I think Silverstone (the circuit) is one of the best tracks in the World, and as such it is a vital part of the F1 calendar. If they re-created the Silverstone layout in Korea, then we wouldn't need a British Grand Prix. But right now, we need Silverstone IMHO - and that means retaining the British race.
I think Bernie is just trying to look out for the sport. No country deserves to have a race on the F1 calendar, just because it always has in the past or has had an association with the sport in the past. It's more important for F1 to be at circuits which meet the criteria of a modern Grade 1 circuit in every respect.
Silverstone keeps lagging behind, and seems to keep needing kicks up the ass from Bernie in order to get its act together. In 2000 we had spectator car parks which resembled stages on Rally GB, and in 2003 we had an idiot managing to find his way onto the track during the race.
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Maybe it's just me, but I don't care what country
> a GP is hosted in, as long as the circuit rocks.
> If Bahrain was as good as Spa, I'd love it.
Not just you! Good racing on good tracks is what I want to see, I'm really not interested what country said tracks are in.
Silverstone keeps lagging behind, and seems to keep needing kicks up the ass from Bernie in order to get its act together. In 2000 we had spectator car parks which resembled stages on Rally GB, and in 2003 we had an idiot managing to find his way onto the track during the race.
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Maybe it's just me, but I don't care what country
> a GP is hosted in, as long as the circuit rocks.
> If Bahrain was as good as Spa, I'd love it.
Not just you! Good racing on good tracks is what I want to see, I'm really not interested what country said tracks are in.
I was at Donnington a few weeks ago. It was the last day ever of using the circuit and there were some road bikes going around it(I was there for the launce of Objet's new 3D printer and set the fastest time of the day of the F1 Simulator 
). It was pretty eiry thinking that the next day it would be ripped up. The profiling for the new downhill section featuring the tight hairpin was already done, just needed tarmacking. But I couldn't help but feel that it didn't look anywhere near what I'd expect it to, to say it's meant to be hosting a round of the F1 World Championships next year.
I have a few photo's but no idea how to post them up (sorry I'm old and a bit behind on this t'interweb stuff!! lol)
). It was pretty eiry thinking that the next day it would be ripped up. The profiling for the new downhill section featuring the tight hairpin was already done, just needed tarmacking. But I couldn't help but feel that it didn't look anywhere near what I'd expect it to, to say it's meant to be hosting a round of the F1 World Championships next year.I have a few photo's but no idea how to post them up (sorry I'm old and a bit behind on this t'interweb stuff!! lol)
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