How do you solve a problem like Fernando?

Posted by Covfan 
How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 11:06AM
Posted by: Covfan
So, where will he be for 2010?


Ferrari has been the rumours pick for the majority of the season, Looking likely to have a seat up for grabs and Santander sponsoring them next season, seems like a no brainer....


However, there is a rumour that Santander is considering pulling out of the Ferrari deal and just staying with Mclaren, if this happens then Mclaren are willing to rehire Alonso.


Now, I thought that even though Santander were going to sponsor Ferrari, they were going to stick with their Mclaren sponsorship (and rebrand it to their UK brand, Abbey). Would be interesting to see Alonso back at Mclaren, do think that too many bridges have been burnt.
Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 11:58AM
Posted by: micky-cannonball
I have a strong feeling alonso will stay for renault again for another one wonderful year. And since its very impossible for alonso to return at mclaren again(although ron was already left their) it is still the old mclaren for him, i'd guess..






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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 12:21PM
Posted by: gav
If he's not in a Ferrari in 2010 I'll make a cast of my own penis and lose my anal virginity to it.*

The only question mark for me is who will join him, and how much of a merry-go-round will occur off of the back of it.

* not binding, but you get the idea of how sure I am it's going to happen.
Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 12:48PM
Posted by: Red Sam
Gav will, literally, f*ck himself :P



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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 01:39PM
Posted by: chet
LOL!

Martin pretty much said on BBC Alonso to Mclaren wont happen in the next few years. Shame, I dont think Alonso really got the most out of his Mclaren spell. If so at least every weekend there would be some racing going on, between Lewis and Alonso :).

I heard the Abbey rumour, but also heard it would be at a reduced to rate to now, and to Ferrari. If Santander to leave, and did offer the deal at a lower rate I dont suspect Mclaren will take it.






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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 02:00PM
Posted by: Sauber89
'they were going to stick with their Mclaren sponsorship (and rebrand it to their UK brand, Abbey'

I doubt it the Abbey brand is disappearing at the end of the year, Fernando's going to Ferrari and it'll be cheaper to pay off a one year contract for Kimi than to pay off a 4/5 year contract for Mr Alonso.

Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 04:45PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
Who partners Alonso at Ferrari depends almost exclusively, I would say, on the Massa situation. If he's not ready to test by February, then keeping Kimi is a no-brainer. If Massa's back and fully fit, I suspect Kimi will be released.

The more interesting one is Renault, IMHO. Grosjean can't become a number 1 driver, the team will need somebody with F1 experience. Flavio has talked a lot recently about "keeping it in the family", i.e. choosing one of his own drivers (for whom he is manager) to fill the seat.

Who else is under Flav's management, aside from Alonso?



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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 04:57PM
Posted by: SchueyFan
@Locke - Kubica seems to be the favourite at Renault - he would be a very good replacement for Alonso should it happen.

I think the only other Briatore-managed driver in the field currently is Webber, but he is of course contracted to Red Bull.





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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 05:41PM
Posted by: Guimengo
I still believe Alonso has a good chance of staying at Renault, the same way Gav's words should indeed be binding.
Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 09:43PM
Posted by: Team CLR
Locke Cole has got it spot on, so much of this depends on Massa, Kimi has said he has a contract for next year (and by him saying that, I assume he has no intention of going anywhere), so it may well come down to whether or not Massa will be racing next year.

Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 09:51PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Kimi has said he has a contract for next year (and by him saying that, I assume he has no intention of going anywhere),

Don't take that for face value. "I have a contract" is a polite way of saying he isn't going to screw Ferrari. But if Ferrari let him run off to WRC, then he will.

Massa will almost certainly be racing in 2010. The sensible money is on Massa and Alonso.

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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 10:47PM
Posted by: vesuvius
But Kimi himself have said he will drive F1 next year and he wants to drive F1 maybe even beyond 2010, he isn't planning WRC career yet. Kimi also said that if he for some reason don't drive Ferrari next year then he will drive for some other team.

and what about Alonso's interview for spanish media today where he said he thinks Kimi and Hamilton will be title favourites again next year? he still says he don't where he drives next year..and where he also said he thinks Kimi is a enormous talent...hardly those words seems to look that Kimi will retire.

we don't still know if and when Massa will be able to drive a F1 car and will he still have the same speed etc...nobody knows.



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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 28, 2009 11:43PM
Posted by: Team CLR
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised to see Alonso at Renault next year, until Massa and/or Raikonenn's contact(s) at Ferrari expire. For some reason, it just seems that patience is the best option, instead of trying to buy out contracts.

Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 29, 2009 12:19AM
Posted by: rapid_f1
mclaren is all about lh as ferrari was all about ms. tbh it shows how good alonso really is when he had all that to deal with at mclaren and still only finished 1 pt behind lh. (was it ron that was overheard talking in the pits about fernandos side of the garage as "them"?) kimi and alonso would be the hands down the ultimate pairing.

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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 29, 2009 10:43AM
Posted by: gav
rapid_f1 Wrote:
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> (was it ron that was overheard talking in the pits
? about fernandos side of the garage as "them"?)

That was Ron in Hakkinen's side of the garage, referring to DCs side as "them", but it's been the same since... half-way through the Senna-Prost relationship I guess.
Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 29, 2009 11:50AM
Posted by: The Lopper
ROFL at gav!

It IS hard to see Alonso being anywhere else other than Ferrari, especially since the F1 world has been talking about it for over a year now. Raikkonen will stay in F1 I reckon, at least for another year...possibly McLaren, but I'd be interested to see how they'll work that driver pairing...People are touting Kubica for Renault, which if it happens I reckon will be a poor choice by Renault...any chance of a straight swap with Alonso and the Kimster?

Possibly Kovy to Williams...dunno...Heikki could surprise people once he's out of Team Hamilton...Williams are one to watch out for, it all depends on whatever engine deal they do I guess...
Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 29, 2009 12:14PM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
What about Kovy and Grosjean at Renault, maybe Kubica to Williams next to Rosberg? Kimi to Mclaren next to Hamilton, Massa/Alonso at Ferrari, Brawn keeping their line up, same with Red Bull. Toyota, hmmm, maybe Heidfeld and Glock as Toyota said Trulli is most likely to leave the team, Trulli to FI maybe to replace Fisichella?

Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 29, 2009 12:33PM
Posted by: chet
Alonso will pretty much have the pick of the field!
I reckon with Brawns secured finances, and I guess being alot Ross will want Alonso in the car. Renault for 3 years now have failed to design a car capable of winning throughout a season. Though Brawn will still be an unknown... It's either Ferrari or Brawn imo.

If it comes to it Will Ferrari just tear up Kimi's contract and pay him off with a huge sum whilst still paying for Alonso, and Massa, both of which will be on a hefty amount of money.






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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 29, 2009 01:17PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
Kovalainen hardly set the world alight at Renault, to be fair. He was an average number 2 before he moved, and an average number 2 after he moved. Quite how he'd suddenly gain bundles of talent outside of McLaren is beyond me.

I believe we'll see Fernando in a Ferrari next year. My reasoning is that in every single interview that Stefano Domenicali has given in the last month, he refuses to deny the Alonso rumours. You'd think that, if he was sure about his two drivers for next year, he would give them a vote of confidence by announcing it publicly.



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Re: How do you solve a problem like Fernando?
Date: August 29, 2009 03:52PM
Posted by: rapid_f1
gav Wrote:
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> rapid_f1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > (was it ron that was overheard talking in the
> pits
> ? about fernandos side of the garage as "them"?)
>
> That was Ron in Hakkinen's side of the garage,
> referring to DCs side as "them", but it's been the
> same since... half-way through the Senna-Prost
> relationship I guess.

my bad, thought it was ron but not sure who against.

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