Piquet Dropped?

It's official, Piquet is out:

[www.autosport.com]

In characteristic whingeing style too

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given the way juniors F1 career turned out and the reservations (justified or not) about renault (in general and the second seat) i don't really see any harm in giving Grosjean (or whoever replaces junior) a 7 race test simply to see how he will cope

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Hopefully Renault uses both Grosjean and di Grassi to evaluate them for 2010, although i think Renault would like to keep Grosjean in the car.

And also, i doubt Piquet will be hired again in F1 after that outburst (apart from his father's possible team of course).

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X (@ed24f1)

The kid never stops whining does he. Thats even worse than his ludicrous rant he went on about Buemi in the Monaco GP aftermath. The kid has a major superiority complex, and I for one will be very happy to see the last of him. He seems to think he's entitled to an F1 seat, and not that its a privileige.

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what an individual, this guy should be greatfull he was given many chances, after his debut race he should've recieved a warning, he spun like 3 times in that first race and it didn't stop until earlier this year, he should've never driven this year, but they let him.. he stop spinning and going out, but only because he started going slower

unless his daddy gets an F1 team, he won't find a drive

"I can now move on and put my career back on the right track and try to recover my reputation of a fast, winning driver"

Joke of the year.

Still not bad as how it was translated in here.. "recover my reputation of a fast, winning F1 driver".

Kimi, so, Massa Fernando Sebastian is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?

Surely that should be "whining" and not "winning" ?

Totally agree with Martin Brundle's comment in the Hungarian GP last week though, the kid's not even mid-20s and people are talking about the end of his F1 career. Could it possibly be that he's too young to make the jump up, too immature...?

He's got some talent, that much is given by the fact that he's got this far (despite daddy's help). But he clearly wasn't ready for F1. Damon Hill was, what, 29 when he got his first drive at Williams? IMHO Piquet Jr. could have a great career in the future, after he's matured a little bit and got some world-experience under his belt.

To talk about a driver in their mid-twenties reaching the end of their career is ludicrous IMHO.

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he always quick and winning driver in other categories... can not be regarded as "a joke" :p

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he was also driving for his dad most of the time and now he is in the real world

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I think it probably is saying something (and in line with what Martin Brundle was saying) that his F1 career is effectively being written off when he's 24 (and as I'm only a few months younger than him I'm gonna feel REAL old suddenly)... and yet his dad didn't even enter F1 until he was 25-26.

If I'm brutally honest - and I regret having to admit this, events of Hungary notwithstanding because I now like him so much anyway - but I thought Felipe Massa was useless when he first entered F1 - spun everywhere, crashed into everyone; a liability. I didn't know what Ferrari saw in him - but he's really matured into a world-class driver who I feel not for some cruel luck would be a worthy reigning champion. Now, maybe looking at the suggestion that by many perceptions Felipe is an extremely likable driver and person and Nelsinho just whinges, it may give the impression that Felipe had more going for him in regards to a second chance but I do think there is a distinct *possibility* that if Nelsinho is just removed from Renault which is NOT working for him, either sent back down to GP2 or to another team for a bit, possibly as a ...no, "test drivers" don't really exist anymore - if he's just given some time to develop in a different environment I think he may have a fair chance of a second career as it were, maybe even to the level of success of Felipe.

I don't know though...

Alot of people are mentioning him being a constant moaner and have slated him for his honesty in his statement.

Throughout 08 and 09 I would like to see this so called moaning and whining... Direct quotes and sources of him moaning. Good luck!

As for the whine in his statement, if he has evidence of the team suggesting Alonso's car is quicker despite being told he had equal equipment he has every f*cking right to moan. He's telling the truth! Its not a moan, its the truth. Besides that 0.7 - 0.8 is not simply a few updates, its significant! If he feels mistreated why shouldnt he moan now? As far as I know he's done the honourable thing and kept quiet whilst with the team. Let him have his moan, he certainly deserves it!

Why when Rubens moaned on TV did alot of people palm if off as being in the heat of the moment, saying he has been given unfair treatment against Button but when Piquet tells the truth he gets slated for being a moaner? For being truthful and blunt I applaud the guy. Not many would have the guts to go out and say such things. He's spoke his mind, he's said it how it was! I dont get people sometimes. The guy tells the truth and everybody still finds fault.

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

ok, honestly he should have kept his car on the road more

how's that?

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tripleM Wrote:
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> ok, honestly he should have kept his car on the
> road more
>
> how's that?

Exactly he made far to many mistakes and paid the price for it, Formula 1 is a harsh old game...

Stop being biased there. I agree with Chet while not forgetting Piquet's 7 offs last season that were his fault.

Now, put yourself in his spot. You're .8s behind your teammate even before you leave the pits and you're forced to perform. Wouldn't you throw it off every so often trying to overdrive that beast of a minivan? See both sides of the argument, the truth as a whole not something you choose to see and something you choose to ignore.

Remember: I dislike Piquet

His father, the 3 time world champion also had rough beginings and even after made far too many mistakes but found his way to 3 championships!

I dont argue he shouldnt have lost his drive. He did have the chances. My problem comes with his situation and people calling him a winger and moaner. My problem comes with blatent unfair status and treatment in an enviroment focused around Alonso.

"It is always very clear in any team to have equal opportunities and an equal car to your team-mate"

A prize to who knows said that.

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2009 01:25AM by chet.

Locke Cole schreef:
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> Surely that should be "whining" and not "winning"
> ?
>
> Totally agree with Martin Brundle's comment in the
> Hungarian GP last week though, the kid's not even
> mid-20s and people are talking about the end of
> his F1 career. Could it possibly be that he's too
> young to make the jump up, too immature...?
>
> He's got some talent, that much is given by the
> fact that he's got this far (despite daddy's
> help). But he clearly wasn't ready for F1. Damon
> Hill was, what, 29 when he got his first drive at
> Williams? IMHO Piquet Jr. could have a great
> career in the future, after he's matured a little
> bit and got some world-experience under his belt.
>
> To talk about a driver in their mid-twenties
> reaching the end of their career is ludicrous
> IMHO.

Abit like Timo Glock, making his debut at 22 in 2004 at Jordan, get dumped, and return 4 years later in 2008 at age 26.

After reading his statement on his site being "kicked out" by renault f1 team, it gives me anger to him,i lost my respect to him, because he just mostly mention on his statement that he won british f3....being a South American F3 champion, losing his gp2 drivers title on his 2nd season due to "technical mistakes?" wtf!. im so pissed he just saying all his achievment during his junior-race. and complaining not getting same car that fernando have, and he even mentioned he always run on hard tires with big heavy fuel loads compare to alonso's soft & light fuel during test day...(wtf!) he is totally a 10 yr old kid who can't stand on his own and always gonna "WHINE" and covers thing up when he didn't not perform well...infact he just can't accept the fact that Fernando Alonso is better than him! Nelson Piquet your stats in racing aint gonna help you to rise!#$%^&*

Nobody is forcing Piquet to be a Hakkinnen or a Senna or a Schumacher, the problem is that when these type of drivers loose their seats they start relying on excuses and blaming everything, that althou may be truth, are not the real reason of loosing the drive, Bourdais has no excuse but even before loosing the drive he was complaining about everything, when Barrichello got kicked out of Ferrari he start saying these things about him being the 2nd driver and stuff, that may be truth, but that doesn't change the fact that he performed horribly in 2005, Montoya tried saving his dingity by switching to Nascar before getting kciked out by Mclaren and then he started blaming F1 and sometimes even blamed the team for his performances, but that doesn't change the fact that he was performong horribly

and then we have the Mcnish, daMatta, Zanardi, even Ralf type of drivers that don't say much when they loose their drives and start blaming the grooved tyres and this and that

Massa iirc used to spun and crash a lot, but at least sometime he put some impressive drives and showed signs of raw speed, he used to come back from the field and pass a lot of people even in the Sauber, but Piquet hasn't showed anything, i don't remember correctly but did he ever made it to Q3?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2009 02:02AM by Slash.

chet Wrote:
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> Alot of people are mentioning him being a constant
> moaner and have slated him for his honesty in his
> statement.
>
> Throughout 08 and 09 I would like to see this so
> called moaning and whining... Direct quotes and
> sources of him moaning. Good luck!
>
> As for the whine in his statement, if he has
> evidence of the team suggesting Alonso's car is
> quicker despite being told he had equal equipment
> he has every f*cking right to moan. He's telling
> the truth! Its not a moan, its the truth. Besides
> that 0.7 - 0.8 is not simply a few updates, its
> significant! If he feels mistreated why shouldnt
> he moan now? As far as I know he's done the
> honourable thing and kept quiet whilst with the
> team. Let him have his moan, he certainly deserves
> it!

I don't think anyone is seriously complaining that he's moaning - I always appreciate any honesty in sport these days - but regardless of whether they were planning to sack him or not, all he's done in the last week is made the decision and/or the justification for that sacking easy. He's come out of it looking like a complete twat.

People were saying Bourdais didn't deserver a 2nd chance in 2009. That Sato should have been given his seat. Somehow, despite the worst debut season I can think of in the history of the sport, Piquet got a 2nd season. He deserved to be sacked before mid-season last year. It's one thing being slower than your teammate (and fair enough if it's the best driver in F1), but it's unforgivable if you keep dumping it in the wall.

He needs to do what Bruno Senna did - play in other categories and learn the technical aspects of the sport. Do so without Daddy holding his hand and at long last forge his own career path. Learn the fundamentals rather than just the very basics. If he does, he might get another shot in F1 and he should be in a better position to exploit it. Other than that, he's relying on Daddy to buy out another team and once more he's going to do jack @#$%& to earn his place.

Piquet was lucky to get through the 1st year yet alone get a drive this year.

But Renault just like Benetton are a one car team, anyone in the 2nd car does not stand a chance.