The Official 2009 Malaysian GP Thread *spoilers*
Posted by Anonymous User
maybe so, but from other days, it seems a downpour at around 6:00pm was a regular occurence
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I don't think it was just the rain, it was getting pretty dark too so the combination of standing water and poor visibilty could have lead to a nasty shunt... I think it was the right call. Just a shame the cars aren't made to race in those sort of cinditions and we didn't get to see some good racing. I thought it was quite entertaining up till that point 
"Racing is LIFE. Anything before or after is just waiting"
Steve McQueen.
"Racing is LIFE. Anything before or after is just waiting"
Steve McQueen.
maybe they could bring back the 'monsoon' tyre from a few years ago, but i don't think any tyre would have helped today.
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Hasnt monsoon season gone? I thought it was sept/nov to march.
But the weather was generally the same all year round!! With Sun and clear skies in the morning, and the chance of showers in the afternoon which are on-off.
But my point still stands, for a while the rain featured in the race was not enough to stop, but then when the heavy stuff came but wasnt too long cleared after and the conditions were that so the cars could run, but unfortunatly we had no time. The initial shower could have hit 20-30mins later quite easily, then we may have even finished the race under those conditions. Weather is unpredictable. Though in hindsight it would probably have been better to start the race earlier, I doubt anyone could ahve predicted this when it was decided that the race would be a later start.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
But the weather was generally the same all year round!! With Sun and clear skies in the morning, and the chance of showers in the afternoon which are on-off.
But my point still stands, for a while the rain featured in the race was not enough to stop, but then when the heavy stuff came but wasnt too long cleared after and the conditions were that so the cars could run, but unfortunatly we had no time. The initial shower could have hit 20-30mins later quite easily, then we may have even finished the race under those conditions. Weather is unpredictable. Though in hindsight it would probably have been better to start the race earlier, I doubt anyone could ahve predicted this when it was decided that the race would be a later start.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Everybody said there was going to be a huge downpour at this time. Weather in tropical countries is not as varied as other parts of the world, it is quite normal to have a massive downpour in the evening, like clockwork. The locals were all saying this, but F1 got it wrong by trying to suit Europeans. If you want to suit Europeans, have all the races in Europe where the vast amount of fans are. This business of having races in Malaysia to expand the sport globally and then having the races on at difficult times for the venue to suit us in Europe is neither here nor there. This is the second race in a row where late started races have been detrimentally affected. I have never really had a problem at getting up at 3am to watch a race in Australia or where ever. They were laughing at F1 on RTÉ Sports News today, laughing at them for getting it so wrong. Hardly the good PR move F1 thought it was making by moving these races to later times.
Anyway rant over, what a great race that was. People said the first one was good, but this was miles better. We saw the real effects of KERS here, as a number of fast starters used it to great effect, particularly Alonso, and then we saw some fantastic racing as the KERS and non-KERS cars had to battle it out. The circuit was obviously seriously lacking in grip, and it was amazing to see the different lines taken by drivers as they attacked and defended. The most amazing performance, for the first portion, was Nico Rosberg. On the softs, as opposed to the super-softs, he was damn impressive in the opening stages, and had he had a larger fuel load, could well have figured higher. Again Williams have to be disappointed with their return from the weekend, just a half a point. Better things will surely come, and it is fantastic to see them up there.
I was absolutely delighted to see Heidfeld and O'Glock on the podium (and great to see my alternative appellation for the latter catching on, I'm looking at you Lex
). Both drove great races, helped hugely by their tactics, although Heidfeld was very lucky to have the race stopped when it did. I've felt for a while that O'Glock is a better racer than Trulli and while this solitary result far from proves that, it was encouraging to see him press his advantage on the inters so deceisively when he got them.
Finally, can the FIA please change the rules so that the final results are taken from when the red flag is shown, not the previous lap? I'm sure some will disagree with this, but I feel it's only fair; Hamilton, O'Glock and Rosberg can feel hard done by tonight due to the current system.
We were complaining before that Malaysia had never hosted a "classic" race...Well they finally have!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2009 07:58PM by The Lopper.
Anyway rant over, what a great race that was. People said the first one was good, but this was miles better. We saw the real effects of KERS here, as a number of fast starters used it to great effect, particularly Alonso, and then we saw some fantastic racing as the KERS and non-KERS cars had to battle it out. The circuit was obviously seriously lacking in grip, and it was amazing to see the different lines taken by drivers as they attacked and defended. The most amazing performance, for the first portion, was Nico Rosberg. On the softs, as opposed to the super-softs, he was damn impressive in the opening stages, and had he had a larger fuel load, could well have figured higher. Again Williams have to be disappointed with their return from the weekend, just a half a point. Better things will surely come, and it is fantastic to see them up there.
I was absolutely delighted to see Heidfeld and O'Glock on the podium (and great to see my alternative appellation for the latter catching on, I'm looking at you Lex
). Both drove great races, helped hugely by their tactics, although Heidfeld was very lucky to have the race stopped when it did. I've felt for a while that O'Glock is a better racer than Trulli and while this solitary result far from proves that, it was encouraging to see him press his advantage on the inters so deceisively when he got them.Finally, can the FIA please change the rules so that the final results are taken from when the red flag is shown, not the previous lap? I'm sure some will disagree with this, but I feel it's only fair; Hamilton, O'Glock and Rosberg can feel hard done by tonight due to the current system.
We were complaining before that Malaysia had never hosted a "classic" race...Well they finally have!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2009 07:58PM by The Lopper.
Nickv Wrote:
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> If there are monsoon showers between 4pm and 7pm
> every day, and start the race at 5pm, you can be
> quite sure there is going to be rain and possibly
> heavy monsoon showers (sicne you're in the rainy
> season). The chance just vastly increases that you
> have a monsoon shower in the race if you start it
> in that timeframe. They could've known. How many
> years have we heard stories about (heavy) rain
> falling just after the race in Malaysia?
Ok agreed, totally forgot about the few reports of after race rain. But i still reckon there was a good chance of the rain holding out a little longer, and when it did hit like today would still have been driveable...
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
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> If there are monsoon showers between 4pm and 7pm
> every day, and start the race at 5pm, you can be
> quite sure there is going to be rain and possibly
> heavy monsoon showers (sicne you're in the rainy
> season). The chance just vastly increases that you
> have a monsoon shower in the race if you start it
> in that timeframe. They could've known. How many
> years have we heard stories about (heavy) rain
> falling just after the race in Malaysia?
Ok agreed, totally forgot about the few reports of after race rain. But i still reckon there was a good chance of the rain holding out a little longer, and when it did hit like today would still have been driveable...
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
Was that Button's new lady friend, they were showing during the podium, looking up? Young oriental looking girl...rather cute I thought.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2009 08:24PM by Karan.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2009 08:24PM by Karan.
What are FOM or whatever doing. Why is there not much of the tv graphics anymore.
Last year they showed everyones apex speed in a chosen corner, it would have been interesting to know the difference between the Diffuser teams and non-diffuser teams!!
Last year they showed everyones apex speed in a chosen corner, it would have been interesting to know the difference between the Diffuser teams and non-diffuser teams!!
Thats a good point
I switched the feed to main feed and onboard because BBC featured all the timings in between the drivers.
In Aus and here I felt that this was not featured enough on the normal feed. Without the gap differences it becomes very difficult to follow the progress of those not in view! This became useful, especially in the wet conditions. The gap from first to second was hardly shown and given what was happening, it was an important part of the race, to see how far back Rosberg was, then eventually Glock, and how fast Glock could catch!
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
I switched the feed to main feed and onboard because BBC featured all the timings in between the drivers.
In Aus and here I felt that this was not featured enough on the normal feed. Without the gap differences it becomes very difficult to follow the progress of those not in view! This became useful, especially in the wet conditions. The gap from first to second was hardly shown and given what was happening, it was an important part of the race, to see how far back Rosberg was, then eventually Glock, and how fast Glock could catch!
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
lol they should get this sorted! I thought this year they wanted to improve by giving more info to fans! (or was this BBC? lol)
hmm cant say I noticed that Monza972, good spot though
hmm cant say I noticed that Monza972, good spot though
marcl Wrote:
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> People last year in Monza slated Lewis for what
> happened in quali yes with Massa hardly anyone
> says a word sums it up really dont it.
I have a feeling because its for the following reason
Hamilton made his own decision and chose the wrong tires iirc, then by the time he changed the track conditions got worse? So people were slating him because he couldnt make his own choices and should just listen to the team.
Here I personally think the team thought it was enough so didnt send either Kimi or Massa out..when I feel both should have gone for a 2nd run.
Hamiltons fault Vs Team fault
But then one could argue the team should have told Lewis and Massa in his incident should have gone out for himself and told the team!
Im not 100% about my statement about hamilton in monza above so I await corrections.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2009 09:44PM by DJSKYLINE.
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> People last year in Monza slated Lewis for what
> happened in quali yes with Massa hardly anyone
> says a word sums it up really dont it.
I have a feeling because its for the following reason
Hamilton made his own decision and chose the wrong tires iirc, then by the time he changed the track conditions got worse? So people were slating him because he couldnt make his own choices and should just listen to the team.
Here I personally think the team thought it was enough so didnt send either Kimi or Massa out..when I feel both should have gone for a 2nd run.
Hamiltons fault Vs Team fault
But then one could argue the team should have told Lewis and Massa in his incident should have gone out for himself and told the team!
Im not 100% about my statement about hamilton in monza above so I await corrections.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2009 09:44PM by DJSKYLINE.
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