So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary? *Monza spoilers*

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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 08, 2008 10:21AM
Posted by: J i m
Chris Goodwin is even worse than Croft. I lost count of the multitude of things they got wrong at Spa, and they completely missed the point with regards to Senna's drive Thur.
Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 08, 2008 06:10PM
Posted by: mikef1
gav Wrote:
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> Ianwoollam Wrote:
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> > James Allen will move to Sky to commentate on
> A1GP >_<
>
> David Croft will get the Beeb job. I'm certain of
> it. As I've said in today's race thread though,
> he's worse than Allen.
>
> It's just another Hamilton fanboy, yet this one
> doesn't know anything, whereas you've got to hand
> Allen that compliment - he knows his stuff (even
> if he does play the dumbass most of the time).
>
> This weekend Croft kept describing Les Combes as
> "the chicane". BLASPHEMY! (if technically probably
> correct). Why not go that bit further. Call Eau
> Rouge "the chicane". Turkey turn 8 "the curve". He
> shouldn't be allowed near a microphone for TV. He
> usually works on the radio because you can't see
> his cockups.


*shudders* I really, really hope that twat Croft doesn't get the job.
I can just about stand JA, last race he was back to his bad self but otherwise he is tollerable. I sincerley hope it will be Ben Edwards next year with Martin Brundle or DC or both!
Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 09, 2008 12:45AM
Posted by: Daniel Knott
On a side note, motogp commentary on eurosport is really good, however since bbc bought exclusive rights to it next year, it means i wont be able to watch it on there anymore and will have to watch boring bbc commentary that is also very biased.

H E L L O
Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 09, 2008 01:03AM
Posted by: Racer#73
The MotoGP commentary on Eurosport is awesome, they give quite a show while commentating the races, from the start to finnish, through every pass or Stone crash. Even my father who doesn't understand a bit of English likes it better. However, since the 2007 season the races started to be commentated by Portuguese commentators from Eurosport Portugal. It's not very bad, but I sure miss the British commentators.
Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 05:29AM
Posted by: Trido
In Australia we usually get ITV commentary which is fine with me because I really enjoy Brundle and we never see the pre-race stuff from Blundel who also annoys me!

During the Aussie GP though we are stuck with the god awful Aussie guys who know JACK about F1. One of the guys is a race driver in a local series and he thinks that makes him an expert because he knows special racing words. As if your V8 POS is anything like an F1 car. The guy is a moron. The other guy isn't much better either. Thank god it is for only 1 GP a year. I would download the ITV races if they (The channel 10 commentators) did the commentary for every race.



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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 06:27AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
James Allens interview on Dutch TV where he stated they got 3000 emails and "97% of them said they would never watch F1 again" and "England is not terribly happy" and "the rest of the world isn't terribly happy either" really pissed me off. This man needs a kick in the face and a reality check.

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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 07:43AM
Posted by: Trido
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> James Allens interview on Dutch TV where he stated
> they got 3000 emails and "97% of them said they
> would never watch F1 again" and "England is not
> terribly happy" and "the rest of the world isn't
> terribly happy either" really pissed me off. This
> man needs a kick in the face and a reality check.

What was this about?
Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 08:05AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
It was Allens childish reaction to the Lewis penalty, which made some internet posts look grown up.

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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 09:02AM
Posted by: Trido
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> It was Allens childish reaction to the Lewis
> penalty, which made some internet posts look grown
> up.

lol I guess that shouldn't surprise me.
Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 09:07AM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
DaveEllis schreef:
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> James Allens interview on Dutch TV where he stated
> they got 3000 emails and "97% of them said they
> would never watch F1 again" and "England is not
> terribly happy" and "the rest of the world isn't
> terribly happy either" really pissed me off. This
> man needs a kick in the face and a reality check.


3000 emails of the few million people watching f1, wow now the penalty should be reversed ;)

Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 09:59AM
Posted by: J i m
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> James Allens interview on Dutch TV where he stated
> they got 3000 emails and "97% of them said they
> would never watch F1 again" and "England is not
> terribly happy" and "the rest of the world isn't
> terribly happy either" really pissed me off. This
> man needs a kick in the face and a reality check.

If that were true, then it would be nearly 3000 less idiots watching F1, a good thing! :D

No seriously, I'd share your general view. Much of the publicised view on the Spa incident is generated from the patriotic "OMG you can't do that to our Lewis!" group of casual fans who possibly do not hold a great understand the finer points of F1 racing.

Ill informed people crying foul and fix, when in actual fact if the stewards did what the so called fans apparently want and reverse Hamilton's penalty, then the result would be even more farcical, fabricated and fixed than it was before, considering that Hamilton actually did infringe the regulation. The very people accusing the FIA of bias are actually asking the FIA for bias.

Unfortunately for the rest of us the media, and the British media in particular panda to that point of view, or in the case of the tabloids ignite it and continue to stoke it to whip up a fiery storm.

It's when you get specialist media sinking to that level when you've really got to reach for the sick-bag, but then in recent years I guess we can't expect anything better from Autosport.
Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 12:03PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
I'm a firm F1 fan of one-and-a-half decades and I believe Lewis's penalty should be reversed, but my indignation arises out of impartial consideration and applied knowledge of the rules, not national favouritism. I don't think it's fair to say that Hamilton "did infringe the regulation" because he clearly let Kimi back past, as he is expected to do, and was not under a duty to remain behind Kimi when he went in far too cautiously to La Source.

But that's a separate argument, my point is that "true" racing fans don't all believe that the penalty should stand and they aren't to be confused with the people to whom you refer as 'casual fans', who do appear to have reacted in a childish manner by e-mailing ITV in anger. As if ITV, or James Allen, have anything to do with the regulations. James was passing on these childish comments, don't shoot the messenger for the idiocy of the message. ;)

Thankfully the FIA seem above public sway. There was an incident in the UK about 20 years ago when two killers were denied early release by the Home Secretary because he received 12 thousand coupons from readers of The Sun expressing their opinion. I won't go into the numbers and percentages but that's a tiny proportion of the population, most of whom didn't even have a knowledge of the case. Say what you like about the FIA, but at least they ignore public opinion when they should.



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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 01:16PM
Posted by: gav
Locke Cole Wrote:
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> I'm a firm F1 fan of one-and-a-half decades and I
> believe Lewis's penalty should be reversed, but my
> indignation arises out of impartial consideration
> and applied knowledge of the rules, not national
> favouritism. I don't think it's fair to say that
> Hamilton "did infringe the regulation" because he
> clearly let Kimi back past, as he is expected to
> do, and was not under a duty to remain behind Kimi
> when he went in far too cautiously to La Source.

Well, no. His duty was ensure he didn't gain an advantage through cutting the course. By the sounds of it, every other driver in F1 agrees that he did. The only thing they can't agree on is how harsh the penalty was (again, not something the stewards could do much about at the time, apparently).
Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 01:19PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
If the Stewards had given a penalty other than the 25 second drop, then there would have been questions on why. The rules state it should be one, so why should they change it for Lewis.

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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 03:33PM
Posted by: sasjag
i beleive today was a first for me, in that i actually shouted "shut the f*ck up james allen you stupid twat" at teh TV, he was pissing me off so much

Sim


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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 03:43PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Today was hilarious

ITV: F1 SCREWED LEWIS
F1 Drivers: Penalty was needed, but maybe a little harsh
ITV: Well...they weren't thinking about the sport :(((((((((((

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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 13, 2008 04:07PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
Oh dear. I didn't watch the pre-quali show because I thought they wouldn't cover anything except the Lewis incident controversey. Sounds like I made the right decision.



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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 14, 2008 01:05PM
Posted by: flat tyre
I didn't watch the pre-qualifying show yesterday either, but I had no choice, because I had to do prefect duties at my school's speech day. I got home a few minutes before qualifying started (nice surprise to see it raining), and I thoroughly enjoyed missing the build up ;)

I can recommend missing the ITV build up, F1 coverage feels much more neutral then, and more professional ;-)

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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 14, 2008 04:21PM
Posted by: chet
Locke Cole Wrote:
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> Oh dear. I didn't watch the pre-quali show because
> I thought they wouldn't cover anything except the
> Lewis incident controversey. Sounds like I made
> the right decision.


Was quite insightful and I was quite supprised to think it was worth the watch. Was not as bad as I thought it would be or could have been.

edit - ITV's reaction was the same throughout British Press and 'general' British opinion. Of course they would cover it and dispute it, likewise the Italian crew would have gone over about why it was justified. Today though they were quite fair on comments about his defending so its not as bad as people try to make out.






"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL



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Re: So, are you satisfied with your TV F1 commentary?
Date: September 14, 2008 04:55PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
James Allen pissed me off today.

"The only story is Lewis, and his drive through the field".

Did you not see the f**king race James? I won't post why since thats a spoiler for Monza, but it should be obvious.

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