Istanbul GP Thread ***Spoilers!***

Joe_Satriani Wrote:
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> I'm just sorry for Heikki...I think that if he had
> a bit more luck, he could be easily challenging
> for the title. He probably lost a podium in
> Barcelona and a win today.


He had a nice pace on quali and a good recovery in the race but I don't think he could have challenged Felipe this race

Guimengo Wrote:
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> He had a nice pace on quali and a good recovery in
> the race but I don't think he could have
> challenged Felipe this race

I think he could've. I also think if Hamilton had qualified on the front row and got ahead of Massa in turn one, he would've won it.

God have u seen how that mclaren front wing wobbles when behind another car, that can not be good.

Guimengo Wrote:
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> Joe_Satriani Wrote:
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> > I'm just sorry for Heikki...I think that if he
> had
> > a bit more luck, he could be easily challenging
> > for the title. He probably lost a podium in
> > Barcelona and a win today.
>
>
> He had a nice pace on quali and a good recovery in
> the race but I don't think he could have
> challenged Felipe this race


he would have! Heikki had more fuel than anyone else in top5 so his quali lap was again amazing and without the puncture he could have won but did not happend today sadly.

vesuvius Wrote:
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> Guimengo Wrote:
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> > Joe_Satriani Wrote:
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> > > I'm just sorry for Heikki...I think that if
> he
> > had
> > > a bit more luck, he could be easily
> challenging
> > > for the title. He probably lost a podium in
> > > Barcelona and a win today.
> >
> >
> > He had a nice pace on quali and a good recovery
> in
> > the race but I don't think he could have
> > challenged Felipe this race
>
>
> he would have! Heikki had more fuel than anyone
> else in top5 so his quali lap was again amazing
> and without the puncture he could have won but did
> not happend today sadly.

how do you know this? He was fueled again when he had the puncture at the beginning thats why he ran longer.

gin Wrote:
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> vesuvius Wrote:
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> > Guimengo Wrote:
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> > > Joe_Satriani Wrote:
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> > > > I'm just sorry for Heikki...I think that if
> > he
> > > had
> > > > a bit more luck, he could be easily
> > challenging
> > > > for the title. He probably lost a podium in
> > > > Barcelona and a win today.
> > >
> > >
> > > He had a nice pace on quali and a good
> recovery
> > in
> > > the race but I don't think he could have
> > > challenged Felipe this race
> >
> >
> > he would have! Heikki had more fuel than anyone
> > else in top5 so his quali lap was again amazing
> > and without the puncture he could have won but
> did
> > not happend today sadly.
>
> how do you know this? He was fueled again when he
> had the puncture at the beginning thats why he ran
> longer.


how do I know? well reading interviews that's how....Heikki said it,Martin Withmarsh,Ron Dennis and even Lewis Hamilton said the facts about Heikki's amazing quali lap with heavy fuel load.

marcl Wrote:
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> God have u seen how that mclaren front wing
> wobbles when behind another car, that can not be
> good.


Noticed it since Spain last year but sadly FIA doesn't want to know

Its not flexing which is illegal its just wobbling when close to another car.

Yeah I noticed that too. At the time I thought Kovy had clipped someone with his front wing, it was wobbling so much.

What I also noticed it that the Honda wings on the nose move a terrible lot on high speed. I can't imagine that's good for aerodynamics...

It's worse on the eyes than the air tbh.

I really cannot believe Heikki was that heavy, if anything heavier than Lewis but Lewis had the hard tires.

Nickv Wrote:
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> What I also noticed it that the Honda wings on the
> nose move a terrible lot on high speed. I can't
> imagine that's good for aerodynamics...


Honda have annouced some radical aero parts for monaco...

oh dear
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/13/2008 06:06AM by casabonka.

i can see hub cap things aka what ferrari have, with little wings stuck to them. one on each wheel

Rubens and Button will have assorted winglets and 'vortex generators' Pritt Sticked to the helmets.

Hasnt he said what teams say every year ?

"We should have some visually interesting new parts for Monaco, the highest downforce circuit so far"

I remember teams saying this year in year out. Also who was it that said Monaco was the one track where efficiency was not the key. ie the sacrafice of straightline speed in favour of highdownforce was the quickest way at Monaco, almost never taking the straight line performance into consideration.

Honda do need something for Monaco though, but I doubt it will help. Their problem, as they have said is problems over the curbs/bumps.

Neither Honda driver has been amazingly quick here either... JB is 2003 was pretty awesome till he hit the wall lol, in 2004 he had an awesome car. 06, I cant remember so cnat have been great, and 07 him and rubens were matched closer than ive ever seen team-mates matched before!

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

He did well there in 2005

marcl Wrote:
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> Its not flexing which is illegal its just wobbling
> when close to another car.


Anyway, McLaren's front wing flexes (the upper wing, the one over the nose) when running on straights vs. corners. It can be noticed when they switch on the front nose camera. I think they should fix it to the front nose ( I think Renault does it).

Wow, that's a lot!

Its bouncing not flexing thats the thing and thats why the FIA can not do anything. Its been spoken about before in the forums.

vesuvius explained why it was legal. But I agree it should be secured to there can be no question about it.