Jerez Testing (January 14th)

yep he probably would u think how much faster he was than fissi when they were team mates, maybe they would have got top 3 more than once.

raikkonensdabest Wrote:
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> One Thing to say....... a quali lap run probably,
> you think that teh renault 2007 will be quicker
> than the F2008 & MP4-23?


Yes, although if you have been/seen some tests, most of the drivers perform quali laps at some point.

Anyway, considering it was the first time he was driving the R27, not suited to him at all (he has not participated in its development), it is running with the F2008 and the mp4-23 (new cars), it was the first day of testing for him after 2.5 months...it was a great day for him indeed.

gav Wrote:
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> Thumbs up to Bordais - he seems to have settled
> straight in. We all know testing times mean
> nothing, and STR could be running TC and have all
> the ballast taken out, but none-the-less he's
> doing a bit better than I expected (which wasn't
> much).

In the chicane on the video, he definitely wasn't using TC

But yes, he does seem to have made the transition quite smoothly - i guess we'll get to see if he lives up to the hype quite soon.

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Yesterday´s Pedro fastest lap was set on lap 41 of 111, with 20 laps runs right? can someone confirm that? is this is true, its an really amazing lap with the /23..

From where do you get that Pedro did his best time in a 20 lap stint?

From what I know of Alonso's times, he was running during the morning with used tires. During the afternoon he put new ones and in a long stint he set 1.20.3, and finally, in a flying lap he did the final time.



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both McLarens and Ferraris only did long runs on afternoon .

OK, but how do you know it. I mean, do you have some extra info?

Ali Wrote:
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> OK, but how do you know it. I mean, do you have
> some extra info?


yeah Heikki Kovalainen's interview for example where he says he is not worried about Alonso's time because it was a quali run etc and McLaren only focused on long runs(Heikki did 40 laps on morning and 4 times long run on afternoon)...and also most of the internet sites/forums says Ferrari did long runs also.Kovalainen said that when you look at Alonso's other times there is no reason what so ever to be worried because they were far from the pace of McLaren.



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vesuvius Wrote:
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> Kovalainen said that
> when you look at Alonso's other times there is no
> reason what so ever to be worried because they
> were far from the pace of McLaren.

A little arrogant, isn't he? I think he should have more consideration for Alonso and what he is capable of.

Ali Wrote:
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> vesuvius Wrote:
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> > Kovalainen said that
> > when you look at Alonso's other times there is
> no
> > reason what so ever to be worried because they
> > were far from the pace of McLaren.
>
> A little arrogant, isn't he? I think he should
> have more consideration for Alonso and what he is
> capable of.


no not arrogant at all =) he also said Alonso is a 2 times world champion and a great driver and capable of doing great drives but Heikki knows R27 very well and when looking at Alonso's times it doesn't scare him at the moment.Heikki also said Renault has done pr stunts before they did it with him also we will have to wait and see how good R28 is... only then we can see if Alonso is a threat or not.



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F1-Live Spanish:

El piloto español ha recorrido casi 500 kilómetros a lo largo de la jornada, centrándose en completar “long runs”. Pedro ha realizado series de 20 vueltas kilometradas para acumular el máximo número de kilómetros en este inicio de temporada, lo que proporciona datos muy importantes a su escudería para afrontar con éxito este Mundial..

20 laps series.

BTW, Lewis crashed this morning?

Yes.
Well, I think it was not really a crash, something mechanical I think, but I'm not sure.

Lewis spinned because it's raining today...

struggling with no TC more like

1. Felipe Massa Ferrari F2008 1:28.672 38
2. Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari F2008 1:29.550 21
3. Mark Webber Red Bull Racing RB3 1:31.174 17
4. Timo Glock Toyota TF108 1:31.26 34
5. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren MP4-23 1:31.371 26
6. Fernando Alonso Renault R27 1:31.926 21
7. Kazuki Nakajima Williams FW29 1:32.069 27
8. Lewis Hamilton McLaren MP4-23 1:32.278 24
9. Adrian Sutil Force India F8-VII 1:32.336 38
10. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso STR2 1:33.383 23
11. Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso STR2 1:33.555 23

The sun has come out and those dark clouds have started to clear.
Here are the times so far on Wednesday:

RAI 1'26:788 29
KOV 1'27:718 31
MAS 1'28:672 38
VET 1'29:541 24
WEB 1'29:541 24
BOU 1'29:640 29
HUL 1'30:068 35
NAK 1'30:535 36
GLO 1'31:261 44
ALO 1'31:926 21
HAM 1'32:178 24
SUT 1'32:336 38
KOB 1'32:712 17
COU 1'33:651 6

Lewis off track again, 16:25........

Live comments in spanish here:

[www.motor21.com]

lol

To McLaren Driver Heikki

Q. How is the car (MP4-23) in the longer runs?

A. I think it's really promising. We started the runs in the 1:19s and we managed to finish in the low 1:20s. To me it feels quite positive and the engineers seem to be encouraged, but you never really know where you are in testing - you don't know what the other teams are doing. But from the handling I'm quite encouraged.

Whats going on with Lewis? Do you think he has been doing too much press and partying! he said that he was going to be doing "less testing" this winter, but from looks of it he needs to do a lot more!

Lewis has troubles without tc....Ferrari's Domenacalli already said he can't use his last years syle because it will destroy tyres fast.

todays times :

1 GLO Toyota 1:19.779 96
2 HAM McLaren 1:20.099 73
3 ALO Renault 1:20.363 49
4 BOU Toro Rosso 1:20.407 61
5 MAS Ferrari 1:20.500 85
6 KOV McLaren 1:20.535 79
7 KOB Toyota 1:20.577 53
8 RAI Ferrari 1.20.646 88
9 NAK Williams 1:20.758 57
10 SUT Force India 1:21.705 71
11 WEB Red Bull 1:22.275 53
12 COU Red Bull 1:22.581 54
13 HUL Williams 1:24.023 65
14 VET Toro Rosso 1:24.873 50



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