Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!

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Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 22, 2007 08:36PM
Posted by: iCeMaN pAuL
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Could make for an interesting discussion this.

Obviously I've never seen Rosberg race, so it's very difficult to vote for him, but boy it took me some time to decide between Kimi and Mika!

In the end I had to go for Mika!

What do you think?




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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 22, 2007 08:37PM
Posted by: brnco
Haka forever!



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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 22, 2007 08:42PM
Posted by: marcl
Mika 100% as he was a nice guy and won after nearly dying.
Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 22, 2007 08:52PM
Posted by: Muks_C
it's completely subjective and a pointless question really. what does "greatest Finnish champion" actually mean?




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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 22, 2007 09:32PM
Posted by: Guimengo
I still don't and won't rate Mika as a fantastic driver, he only won anything when he had the absolute best car and when Schumi was out for a bit. He was very quick, yes, but so were many others. Keke I cannot comment on but he only had 5 wins, even though it was during a very hard time in F1 with so many great drivers, but still being a very brave driver doesn't mean you're the best. I think Kimi has the most natural talent and despite lacking in some areas like improving the car he's one very good driver. But until I see Keke I can't pick Kimi.
Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 22, 2007 09:36PM
Posted by: Sapo
Mika, even just because the Zonta sandwich was more brilliant than Kimi's "Last lap outside overtaking" on Fisico in Japan 2005.

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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 22, 2007 09:38PM
Posted by: Gaulty
Mika all the way. Maybe in future years I might go with Kimi but that depends what he does in the future.


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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 22, 2007 10:10PM
Posted by: mikef1
Fortunately i remember Keke driving and he was one of the ballsiest drivers i ever saw, much like Gilles but a bit calmer behind the wheel. He didn't suit the turbo era with it's strict fuel limits as he was a charger and loved to go flat out all the time. One race to watch Keke at his flat out best was the South African GP of 1985. He was never the all rounder that the best drivers of that era such as Senna, Prost, Lauda and Piquet but was uncatchable on his day.

Mika was, for me, up there with Schumi in terms of driving talent but not in terms of mental stregnth and motivation. It also took him too long to get a fully competetive car and even when he did Mclaren's reliability was an issue. How many races did Mika retire from in the lead? Plus his near fatal accident must have affected him, he never took as many risks after that crash.

Kimi is the fastest man in F1 since Senna imo. He has such raw talent that cannot be denied and he has given us some of the best charges from the back that i have seen. He is a worthy Champion, he should have won one already imo. He does lack discipline however and his technical imput is not of the best drivers and i do wonder how long his motivation will hold up but for now he is to me, the top driver in F1.
Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 23, 2007 10:23AM
Posted by: brnco
I can remember Keke too, only not driving F1 but drivng DTM in '94. He drove "Old Spice" sponsoured Opel Calibra. I liked the way he looked, like half drunk all the time. Though, can hardly remember driving style.



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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 23, 2007 12:50PM
Posted by: chet
:o

atm the pole is equal with Mika and Kimi, im about to change that... ;-)

Mika all the way!






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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 23, 2007 12:54PM
Posted by: chet


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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 24, 2007 02:16PM
Posted by: Trido
Wow, what a tough one. Kimi at Suzuka and Mika at Spa were both absolutely fantastic overtaking maneuvers.
Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 24, 2007 02:50PM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
Poll isnt there anymore, but i would have voted Kimi i guess, mika's championship in 1998 was impossible if he didnt got help from coulthard several times, and in 1999 with schumi i doubt he would have taken it, but his move in spa was just superb. Kimi on the other hand got the title all his self, in a year where there was 2 number 1 drivers in the ferrari team. Rosberg i didnt see racing, but i dont hear that great storys about him now days.

Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 24, 2007 02:58PM
Posted by: SchueyFan
yes, and kimi could/should have won in 2003 and 2005 if he had some luck





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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 24, 2007 03:34PM
Posted by: Locke Cole
From my own subjective point of view (disclaimer eh), I fail to see how it could possibly be anyone other than Mika Hakkinen. He drove in 2 eras of Formula 1 (pre-1998 and 1998 onwards), and has been the only driver who has genuinely been able to beat Schumacher in a lesser car (McLaren 2000), despite missing out on the title. He also had a raw natural speed, which Keke and Kimi have also both had, but a far greater composure and resourcefulness than the other two IMHO.

Mika, a thousand times over!



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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 24, 2007 04:37PM
Posted by: marcl
Just 1 note dont want to take this topic of subject but kimi did get help this year in Brazil had massa not held back 7th would have been enough for lewis.

Also in 2005 there were some races where jpm helped him.

Anyway its all part of the sport.
Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 24, 2007 04:41PM
Posted by: assadof1
kim for sure, mika was good but he wasn't a great as Guimengo said.. and mika's
pass on schumacher at spa isn't his best move at all i can't see even in his top
ten move i don't understand why people rate it like this... he was clearly faster then michael he should past him few laps before that.. i remmeber when i
watching that race i knew that he will pass sooner or later.

but kimi's move (for ex) on fisichella in 05 was a really brave one. and to be
honest people like it becouse it happend in the last lap...


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Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 24, 2007 11:38PM
Posted by: mikef1
I think you're in a minority to not rate that move at Spa '00, it was a risky but perfectly calculated and executed piece of overtaking. Considering Michael nearly had Mika off the previous time Mika tried to overtake and Mika had to brake on the dirty side of the track to get by it was awesome imo.
Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 25, 2007 05:19AM
Posted by: RonnyF1
mikef1 Wrote:
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> Kimi is the fastest man in F1 since Senna imo.

I know I will get flamed by this but I'd like to add JPM up there with Kimi. IMO it doesnt really matter that Kimi rolled over JPM in 2005 and 2006, JPM couldnt really adjust. As far as raw speed goes, JPM is totally up there with Kimi.
Re: Brilliant poll on ITV-F1 site!
Date: October 25, 2007 05:43AM
Posted by: Joe_Satriani
I agree...Kimi and JPM are indeed the fastest guys to hit F1 in the latest years for sure.
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