teams and carnames

f=ferrari in f2004
fw=frank williams in fw26
r=renault in r24
b=bar in b006
ej=eddie jordan in ej14
ps=paul stoddart in ps03
so what do they designate in other teams?
r in jaguar?
tf in toyota?
c in sauber?
mp4 in mclaren?
any idea?




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I think the 'TF' in TF104 means 'Toyota Formula, then the 1, for F1 and the chassis number.

So its Toyota formula 1 - chassis no - 04.

The MP4 in MP4-19 means Mclaren Project. I dont know what the 4 is though.

And yes what is the C mean in C23??

the c in sauber's designation is peter sauber's wife, Christine (i thing)

and the bar is not b006 but just 006 ... isn't it?

mclaren's MP4 is from mclaren and project 4 (which was ron denis' company before he "bought" mclaren)

sorry you're right. no b006, just 006. thanks for the info how have you learnt these?




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MP4 is indeed McLaren Project 4. Ron Dennis had 3 failed or limited successful companies before the 4th one, hence Project 4, then teamed with Mclaren = MP4.

also Renault R24?

maybe R simply means Racing, for both R5 and R24?

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surely 'R' stands for 'Renault'...?

Aren't they continuing their chassis codes from when they last entered F1 racing, so this would be their 25th total season?

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but then it would be called a Renault Renault 24 with its full name? I suppose it could be though, because Ferrari use F, so their car is called the Ferrari Ferrari 2004.

And whats the R in Jaguar R5?

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Jaguar Racing R5, most likely.

Just to confirm what Darko said, C in Sauber's designation is for Christiane, his wife.

C in Sauber's designation is for Christiane, his wife



you sure its does'nt stand for "COPIED"






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r can't be the "racing" of jaguar racing. it has no significance.




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LOL L.S.

Just to some it up then:

Ferrari - F2004 (Ferrari)
Williams - FW26 (Frank Williams)
McLaren - MP4-19 (McLaren Project)
Renault - R24 (Renault)
BAR - 006 (Just 006)
Sauber - C23 (Christiane)
Jaguar - R5 (Racing)
Toyota - TF104 (Toyota Formula)
Jordan - EJ14 (Eddie Jordan)
Minardi - PS04 Paul Stoddart)



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Sauber - C23 (Christiane)

-should be-

Sauber - F2003GA (Painted in Blue)




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BAR 006 means 6th BAR and Ferrari year 2000 was Ferrari F12000 if I remember right? So that F means maby Formula?

i think toyota's is 'the f**kin 104'



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The McLaren statement is untrue. The M in MP4 stands for Marlboro, unfortunately for West... I read this in F1Racing magazine last year. Ron Dennis and McLaren signed their deal with Marlboro and included the M.

As far as Jaguar goes, all of their road cars have a letter, such as the X and J-types. Perhaps the Jaguar R5 is the R-type, and maybe that R stands for Racing. After all, who knows what J and X stand for?

MP4 is the initial for Mclaren Project 4, not Marlboro Project 4 like Fuzzy mentioned above. Marlboro only played role in merging Mclaren's team with Ron's new Project 4 outfit, back in the early 80's.

Until 1980, Ron was running March chassis in F3 and F2 under the Project 4 banner. Plans to enter F1 in the early seventies had been abandoned (Muks_C is right about Ron had three less succesful of failed companies/project/attempt before the fourth one which is Project 4) and he felt the time was then right for another attempt. He wanted to do it properly, and sought out an ambitious young designer called John Barnard who was making his name in the US.

The collaboration between Ron and John resulted Project 4's success, which is the first F1 car with a carbonfibre chassis. Ron wanted a chassis of smaller section, and retain the stiffness. So the only way is, to change the material (John suggested). Ron was brave enough to agree to the plan, despite the obvious risk it placed on his fledgling set-up.

Ron had been hard at work behind the scenes, and it paid off. In September 1980 it was revealed that Marlboro had arranged a merger between Ron's new Project 4 outfit and the Mclaren team. The MP4 chassis was formed from five major components, and consisted of mostly flat panels; the technology to make curved pieces would come later. The prototype had an aluminium front bulkhead, but otherwise was entirely made from the new material. It was launched on March 5 1981, and John Watson and Andrea de Cesaris had to use the old M29 at the start of the season, before they got hold of the MP4 for the third race in Argentina.

Now, think back...why would Mclaren do such thing, like throwing away it's own initials to give way for sponsors? 100% nay as Mclaren is a privateer back then and everyone knows that privateers seldom change their chassis/car name to please their sponsors. The M was never the initial of Marlboro, despite being sponsored heavily by the tobacco giant company back in the 80's and early 90's.

So clearly, MP4 stands for MCLAREN PROJECT 4, not MARLBORO PROJECT 4 (this never exist).



Post Edited (04-04-04 11:21)

.........makes sence.

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clear explanation.




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