FIA probes McLaren for Alonso sabotage
Posted by Jagdpanzer
Saw this in the news, didn't know if anyone else has mentioned it as I haven't seen it posted here. [www.f1complete.com]
Oct.9 (GMM) F1's governing body has opened a new investigation into McLaren, amid claims that the Woking based team may have sabotaged Fernando Alonso's car in China, reports on Tuesday said. At the conclusion of the espionage saga last month, FIA president Max Mosley warned that the Paris body would closely monitor McLaren for signs of retribution against the Spaniard's involvement in providing evidence that ultimately cost the team $100 million and exclusion from the constructors' world championship.
The Spanish newspaper La Nueva Espana claims that Alonso's tyres were extremely over-inflated due to being heated too much prior to the 'Q3' section of qualifying in Shanghai.
"I think they are still investigating," the 26-year-old had told reporters on Sunday, 24 hours after the incident that left him baffled and six tenths slower than his teammate, championship rival and pole-sitter Lewis Hamilton. Alonso added: "I think the tyre pressures were quite high, more than normal, but I don't know if it was that or another explanation."
La Nueva Espana said the FIA is now investigating the claim.
Maybe Fernando isn't being paranoid after all. Hard for me to think of any other reason he would have been six tenths slower in an "equal" car....
"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2007 02:39AM by Jagdpanzer.
Oct.9 (GMM) F1's governing body has opened a new investigation into McLaren, amid claims that the Woking based team may have sabotaged Fernando Alonso's car in China, reports on Tuesday said. At the conclusion of the espionage saga last month, FIA president Max Mosley warned that the Paris body would closely monitor McLaren for signs of retribution against the Spaniard's involvement in providing evidence that ultimately cost the team $100 million and exclusion from the constructors' world championship.
The Spanish newspaper La Nueva Espana claims that Alonso's tyres were extremely over-inflated due to being heated too much prior to the 'Q3' section of qualifying in Shanghai.
"I think they are still investigating," the 26-year-old had told reporters on Sunday, 24 hours after the incident that left him baffled and six tenths slower than his teammate, championship rival and pole-sitter Lewis Hamilton. Alonso added: "I think the tyre pressures were quite high, more than normal, but I don't know if it was that or another explanation."
La Nueva Espana said the FIA is now investigating the claim.
Maybe Fernando isn't being paranoid after all. Hard for me to think of any other reason he would have been six tenths slower in an "equal" car....
"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2007 02:39AM by Jagdpanzer.
didnt renault accidently double fuel Alonso in sepang qually last year? notice there were no claims of sabotage then!
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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Actually, upon closer reading, how do you
> over-heat a tyre? The operating temperature is
> much higher than what the tyre blankets can
> achieve?
Actually I was wondering the same thing Dave. You would think that a tire blanket can only raise tire temperature a finite amount. Once it reaches it's upper limit I wouldn't think the temp would go much higher no matter how long you leave it.
I agree the Spanish press is probably every bit as sensational as the British press...
"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
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> Actually, upon closer reading, how do you
> over-heat a tyre? The operating temperature is
> much higher than what the tyre blankets can
> achieve?
Actually I was wondering the same thing Dave. You would think that a tire blanket can only raise tire temperature a finite amount. Once it reaches it's upper limit I wouldn't think the temp would go much higher no matter how long you leave it.
I agree the Spanish press is probably every bit as sensational as the British press...
"There are some pikeys there at Turn 10 putting tarmac down - what do you think of that?" - Martin Brundle
thats absolute crap
even if they did sabotage his car
ferrari have done the same thing for years
happend with mansell
and apparently in the schumi era and no one questions it
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even if they did sabotage his car
ferrari have done the same thing for years
happend with mansell
and apparently in the schumi era and no one questions it
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DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Actually, upon closer reading, how do you
> over-heat a tyre? The operating temperature is
> much higher than what the tyre blankets can
> achieve?
Wouldnt operating temperature differ with pressure though? the two are proportional.
If the tyre is at a higher pressure, already the temperature would be higher than expected would it not ?? so when they warm them up, they warm them up too much thinking they are at a lower pressure.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
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> Actually, upon closer reading, how do you
> over-heat a tyre? The operating temperature is
> much higher than what the tyre blankets can
> achieve?
Wouldnt operating temperature differ with pressure though? the two are proportional.
If the tyre is at a higher pressure, already the temperature would be higher than expected would it not ?? so when they warm them up, they warm them up too much thinking they are at a lower pressure.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
@#$%& witchhunt. But its from a Spanish media source which obviously means it isn't to be trusted.
the whole thing about Alonso/Mclaren was wrong right from the start. He went there because he thought Renault will withdraw from F1 by the end of 2007. The whole thing was ill fated from the beginning. And you could see last year at the Interlagos that he was quite happy with them(renault) so I imagine that in the winter 06/07 he felt like he is going to foster home. Something he decided a year earlier and simply couldn't do nothing about it. And that is where all the trouble started IMO.
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It depends who that special scrutineer is. Of all the people in the FIA Peter Wright is probably the only one who is both competent and objective enough for all parties to be satisfied.
If not, it will be round n+1 of the bickering with the acronym FIA thrown in.
If not, it will be round n+1 of the bickering with the acronym FIA thrown in.
What a Wank a special scrutineer more like a Witch Hunt What happens if there is a mistake in Alonso's Pitstop? Will they award him the Championship via Default? Fine McLaren another 100mil because a Mechanic stuffed up?
I hope that Alonso nicks off from McLaren Next year so we can stop hearing all this Garbage and they can just Race.
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I hope that Alonso nicks off from McLaren Next year so we can stop hearing all this Garbage and they can just Race.
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