FIA says has new evidence in spy case
Posted by mika19b
I will be interested to see what, if anything, the FIA do about Coughlin - surely he cannot be punished if DLR/Alonso were not?
It also surprises me that the FIA offered an amnesty to the drivers, knowing that two of them were implicated in this...
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It also surprises me that the FIA offered an amnesty to the drivers, knowing that two of them were implicated in this...
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Well apparently it was only Alonso involved.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
de la Rosa and Alonso, I meant.
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As a French guy, able to read both French and English and reading daily both F1 related media through Yahoo F1 News about the whole story, I would like to give a standing ovation to the French speaking F1 media, and well... a yellow card and even a red card to the English speaking (mostly UK actually) F1 media. Too bad I don't understand Italian, that would be really funny to read it, brain washing to death I am sure.
I mean, French speaking F1 media have always (need thorough confirmation of course) given clear and true (=verified or specifying 'to be confirmed'
information to the public. On the other end, reading the English media has been an opening to rumours, unclear, mysterious and biased news.
How about you in other countries ? in Europe or further away ?
I mean, French speaking F1 media have always (need thorough confirmation of course) given clear and true (=verified or specifying 'to be confirmed'
information to the public. On the other end, reading the English media has been an opening to rumours, unclear, mysterious and biased news.How about you in other countries ? in Europe or further away ?
"Well apparently it was only Alonso involved."
huh?
"It also surprises me that the FIA offered an amnesty to the drivers, knowing that two of them were implicated in this..."
Coughlan lied
de la Rosa and Alonso helped the case.
huh?
"It also surprises me that the FIA offered an amnesty to the drivers, knowing that two of them were implicated in this..."
Coughlan lied
de la Rosa and Alonso helped the case.
tripleM Wrote:
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> "Well apparently it was only Alonso involved."
>
> huh?
>
> "It also surprises me that the FIA offered an
> amnesty to the drivers, knowing that two of them
> were implicated in this..."
>
> Coughlan lied
>
> de la Rosa and Alonso helped the case.
It was too red sam, he said alonso and lewis
and it was only alonso out of those two.... but he corrected himself.
"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
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> "Well apparently it was only Alonso involved."
>
> huh?
>
> "It also surprises me that the FIA offered an
> amnesty to the drivers, knowing that two of them
> were implicated in this..."
>
> Coughlan lied
>
> de la Rosa and Alonso helped the case.
It was too red sam, he said alonso and lewis
and it was only alonso out of those two.... but he corrected himself."Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL
new evidence lewis involve too
speed freak
whats toner?
"Until evidence is provided that McLaren did use the info <strike>to improve their cars</strike>, they didn't."
Let's move to a new line of defense, right?
Fact remains, and confirmed by Dennis
"Everything in this document that the FIA says is true," he said. "True in their content. It happened."
that McLaren used Ferrari's information in the simulator to test the weight distribution (for example).
Let's move to a new line of defense, right?
Fact remains, and confirmed by Dennis
"Everything in this document that the FIA says is true," he said. "True in their content. It happened."
that McLaren used Ferrari's information in the simulator to test the weight distribution (for example).
davidm Wrote:
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> Surely there is another issue here as well. As a
> result of the TV coverage and interviews at Spa.
> In effect Max has directly accused Ron of lying.
> If Ron were to consider it valid he could sue for
> libel. Everything that came across was his (Max)
> personal supposition. One would imagine that what
> he wanted out of the meeting was the 2 year ban
> for McLaren. Listen to his defence of the FIA
> position - he personally loathes McLaren, very
> clear from his reaction and body language.
Thats exactly the point I was making - but you put it much better, davidm
Max, as the head of the penalty imposing body, should not make his views public!
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> Surely there is another issue here as well. As a
> result of the TV coverage and interviews at Spa.
> In effect Max has directly accused Ron of lying.
> If Ron were to consider it valid he could sue for
> libel. Everything that came across was his (Max)
> personal supposition. One would imagine that what
> he wanted out of the meeting was the 2 year ban
> for McLaren. Listen to his defence of the FIA
> position - he personally loathes McLaren, very
> clear from his reaction and body language.
Thats exactly the point I was making - but you put it much better, davidm
Max, as the head of the penalty imposing body, should not make his views public!
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Red Sam Wrote:
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> davidm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Surely there is another issue here as well. As
> a
> > result of the TV coverage and interviews at
> Spa.
> > In effect Max has directly accused Ron of
> lying.
> > If Ron were to consider it valid he could sue
> for
> > libel. Everything that came across was his
> (Max)
> > personal supposition. One would imagine that
> what
> > he wanted out of the meeting was the 2 year ban
> > for McLaren. Listen to his defence of the FIA
> > position - he personally loathes McLaren, very
> > clear from his reaction and body language.
>
> Thats exactly the point I was making - but you put
> it much better, davidm
>
> Max, as the head of the penalty imposing body,
> should not make his views public!
I agree, it's almost become personal. My view is that Max wanted to give a harsher punishment to Mclaren but was somehow overruled, perhaps Bernie had a say in it?
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> davidm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Surely there is another issue here as well. As
> a
> > result of the TV coverage and interviews at
> Spa.
> > In effect Max has directly accused Ron of
> lying.
> > If Ron were to consider it valid he could sue
> for
> > libel. Everything that came across was his
> (Max)
> > personal supposition. One would imagine that
> what
> > he wanted out of the meeting was the 2 year ban
> > for McLaren. Listen to his defence of the FIA
> > position - he personally loathes McLaren, very
> > clear from his reaction and body language.
>
> Thats exactly the point I was making - but you put
> it much better, davidm
>
> Max, as the head of the penalty imposing body,
> should not make his views public!
I agree, it's almost become personal. My view is that Max wanted to give a harsher punishment to Mclaren but was somehow overruled, perhaps Bernie had a say in it?
Coughlan and Stepney have a separate hearing i expect they'll both be banned for life coughlan definatly for crime and then lying to fia.
Bernie saved Mclaren for the good of the sport in my opinion how mosley how remained in that post for years is beyond me he's done nothing but ruin the sport he's a man who "retired" to hear everyone's praise and then stayed he's a total idiot.
Bernie saved Mclaren for the good of the sport in my opinion how mosley how remained in that post for years is beyond me he's done nothing but ruin the sport he's a man who "retired" to hear everyone's praise and then stayed he's a total idiot.
the good of the sport is often synonymous with the good of one man's wallet
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