More points

I was wondering what formula one fans thought of drivers getting a point for pole position and/or fastest Race lap. Think it would help spice up the show? Especially qualifying



Ernest Larios

The only way to spice up the show is to bring back the old qualifying format. The racing looks to be well sorted these days, and the last thing we need is MORE points for people who don't win races.

That's just my opinion. Cheers!

Problem with bringing old qualifying back is that then takes excitment from the races. New qualifyings good because it gives us good races - thats the important bit




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Jesus may be able to heal the sick and bring the dead back to life, but he can't do shît for low fps

i don't think a point for pole is a bad thing- someone may go out with a lighter fuel load saturday arvo chasing the point which would put them on a different strategy during the race, opening up all sorts of variables. i like the one lap qualifying format and think it should stay
as for a point for the fastest lap, I don't really see the point (bad pun intended)

I think if they went back to the old format the races will still be as good.

2002 ferrari had a massive advatage in 2003 they did not so the racing was closer.

i still think the races would have been nearly the same had we had the old system apart from a few where the leading drivers made errors DC could have been in the fight as well.

with the rules for 2004 we have lost a day of tv veiwing we will not see the new drivers doing the 3rd car thing and i am a bit upset we have lost fridays.



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maybe alonso wouldn't have won if it wasn't for webber holding up the pack, which was a result of new rules.
i think its good for races but i'd still ike an open qualy session.
don't like the point for qualifying.
pole gives you a good chance to lead into turn one which often enough gives you a good chance to win and 10 points - sint that enough incentive?



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i know what u mean b-tone but its still my view that this is causing artificial racing and the best car and best team should win.

Last year the pole driver did not win much apart from maybe once or twice, it sort of made pole not that important apart as i said from a few gps and even in them the pole driver should not have won.

Where in the past pole was very important

The qually rules are the reason the racing is good. Carrying race fuel is a great hidden factor. Also I think the points system is too close as it is - if you finished second and got fastest lap, you'd only be one point off the winner, and there's something fundamentaly wrong with that imo.



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The gap from 1st - 2nd should be greater. There a re 2 suggestions for points scorers I'd recommend to the FIA if I could - the first having 8 scorers and the second with 10.

12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1
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15-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1

Both of these systems would have made for a better Championship fight IMHO, check the way the Champ tables would have panned out pre-Indy for confirmation. Oh, and both would have left Sauber 9th in the Championship where they belong!

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the new points really messed up jordan big time and really helped jag.

Under the old points system jordan would have finished much higher than they did due to the win.

They should limit quali to 12 laps but again do it on race fuel i.e what u start the session with u have to race with.



Post Edited (02-20-04 11:49)

Oh, and both would have left Sauber 9th in the Championship where they belong!

How so?



Post Edited (02-20-04 11:53)

The intresting thing about gaining a point for pole position is to see whether teams that are close in the championship will go for the poll. But then they would have to pit early because of the light fuel load. So the team manager has to make a stratigic decision as to whether he wants to gamble on the pole or try to make up points in the race.



Ernest Larios

They should give back the twelve laps for quali, but
Every driver would have to do a flying lap every quarter of an hour.
This would spice up the session, the first half an hour wouldn't be just the two minardis and a jordan trundlin' round the track.

how about a mixture of both? Use fridays fastest time in old style qualifying to set up Saturdays one lapper



Ernest Larios

Good suggestion Ernest.

I said Sauber belong in 9th based on overall season performance. Given the results they achieved they finished in a representative Championship slot, but on pace alone, they would not have been there.

Generally I am against points for anything other than finishing position because I feel that it removes the emphasis from RACING, which is where the focus should be... even if that is an oxymoron sometimes!

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An oxymoron? :|

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the point for pole may be a good incentive for the drivers to give it their all. We saw many times in '03 that JPM drove a 'conservative' lap in saturday qualifying, to make sure he didn't make any mistakes. He even said he used to take the first 2 sectors easy, then push for the third. I'm sure most drivers did this. If there was a point up for grabs, maybe we would see someone like him push 100%? For the drivers, it would be a gamble between making no mistakes, and being lower on the grid than they really should be, and going 100% to get the pole and the point. It would be interesting to see who would risk all for the pole and the point, and who would drive conservatively to make sure they made no mistakes.

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But if more people pushed in Qualifying and ruined their lap by accident, surely that would make for a less interesting race?

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Although it does make it interesting with one lap, it would be much better if they had 12 laps again. We don't need the new quali format amymore, cause one team aren't dominating(I hope)

i think we should stick with the 1 lap qualy becuase it brings uncertainty and scope for an exciting grid


with the 12 lap, we always know the order the grid will be. it never changed, always ferrari/mclaren/williams at the front

the new qualy allows different strategies and fast cars being back opn the grid thus promoting exciting racing. and the races are more important.


the only thing the 1 lap qualy lets down on is the way we used to see ultra 100% absolutely banzai laps being attempted in the 12 lap session.
unfotunately we lost the art of total committment and digging deep late on in the old 1 hour qualy session that used to be so exciting