Where is the new Toro Rosso?

Wasn't it supposed to be presented today?
Nothing is reported around the web...

Berger said a few weeks ago the car won't be ready til late February, so its most likely that the car isn't finished yet.

It will be the same as the Red Bull.

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yep, just a very slightly different rear end to fit the different engines

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and with two drivers to screw things up

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Don't Redbull have that anyway

Yea same as Redbull just with different engines



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/06/2007 09:49PM by SpykerMF1.

Same as Red Bull means, same as the RB2 or as the RB3?

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i think RB3

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RB3 it's SA that are using a year old one

yeah so RBR and TR use the same exact car, built by Red Bull Technologies to get round the legal issues, with slightly different engine mounts to suit the Renault/Ferrari engines.

whereas Aguri just use the 2006 Honda cars.

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actually i think you'll find aguri will build their own 2007 car

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from the blueprints of a 2006 Honda... :P



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Expect SA to change it slightly, and argue that it's a different car, and that they own the intellectual property in their own right.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/2007 10:10PM by Rubidius.

Dont expect something like what TR did last year with SA.

The TR was about as near as you can get to the RB2...

I imagine the SA will show abit of thier own work in the new car.

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iCeMaN pAuL Wrote:
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> actually i think you'll find aguri will build
> their own 2007 car
What have a 2006 Honda built for them then put SA plates on the car instead of Honda lol

the tiny change you mention Rubidius is the difference in engine mountings/fixings. they can run 99.9999% identical cars, but if 1 or 2 brackets are different between the cars to attach their respective engines, they they're classed as different cars in the eyes of the FIA. and for Honda/Aguri to get round the rules of who designed the cars, they just say that the '06 Honda was designed by BAR during '05, then run by Honda in '06, then run by Aguri in '07, meaning Aguri aren't running a car designed by who ran them last.


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> Dont expect something like what TR did last year
> with SA.

i don't follow... you mean the relative performance between the works team and the B-team, as TR often were matching RB?


> The TR was about as near as you can get to the
> RB2...


surely the TR of '06 was the Red Bull of '05, the RB1, and not the RB2?


> I imagine the SA will show abit of thier own work
> in the new car.

probably, but it will no doubt have a lot of input from the works Honda team, after all they ran it all last season, so know it better than Aguri who've just "adopted" it.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/2007 11:30PM by Muks_C.

They were earlier than expected, and there it is: the new STR:

[www.formule1.nl]

Not a copy of the RB2, but i think it'll match the RB2 in speed and reliability

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/2007 11:44PM by Sapo.

LOL-tastic!

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lol

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its a disgrace what sa and tr are doing.

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