Mosley suggests 20 races for F1 in future

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Could be good. Would be nice to have races March through November like the '80s, a couple of 3 week breathers sometime in Spring and Summer after the flyaway races perhaps, and that calendar would be just about perfect IMHO. Some countries would have to alternate venues (Germany and Italy in particular) to make the calendar more interesting, but more venues in other countries please Max!

(Throwaway comment) What about Britain alternating between Brands Hatch and Silverstone for the Grand Prix?

EDIT: Dammit, LS beat me to it!

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2006 07:14PM by turkey_machine.

Brands did have a deal to take the British GP away from Silverstone a few years ago, but it did't meet the FIA safety requirements for formula one, and there wasn't room/permission to make the changes neccesary.

ahh, poor LS, he's been gazumped.

to be honest, i'd prefer them to renovate the facilites at the existing "classic" tracks than keep introducing new countries with no atmosphere or character (Bahrain, China et al).

and before Vader says it, yes i know every classic track was new at one time, so has built up it's history over the years, but some of the new tracks are utterly lifeless. can anyone envision somewhere like Bahrain becoming a classis like Spa, Suzuka or Monza have, in 50 years time? i can't.

as for the number of races, 20 is a nice number, but even with 18 or 19, to me, the season felt slightly long. i think 17 is the perfect number. i can't even remember what happened in the 1st few races of the season by the time we get to the end of the season.

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I can envisage Turkey, Sepang and China all becoming classics in the future. Bahrain, I can't - but I do feel that a race in the Middle East is sufficiently "different" to have its own character. For me, emasculated tracks such as the new Nurburgring, Magny-Cours, etc. are the ones which should be under threat.

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Well, be pleased, because they are :P

There were 18 races this season and I think that was enough. I wouldn't mind more though, but it's not necessary for me.

And I have the same Muks, I can't remember what happened in the first part of the season either.

I prefer 17 tracks, we could get rid of Shanghai and Bahrain...

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

20 tracks is too much, 17 if perfect IMO

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they should get rid of the tracks that dont provide any good races. that way, all these newly desined circuits will have to be worth their money if they're going to keep their place lol. seriously though as for classics, i think turkey is one already! we've had great racing there both years . but places like magny, imola and nurburgring can go in my opinion because they rarely provide a race i can remember (when i say imola i refer to the modern layout, as the old one provided good racing...but also tradgedy too).

anyways, they can have however many races they want...i'll still watch them all! lol

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Considering the current calendar, I'd remove Bahrain, Melbourne (replacing with Adelaide) and Fuji (Suzuka back, please!)

The first three tracks are in places where F1 doesnt have any history (excuse me, but I have never seen any chinese drivers or engine suppliers in F1!!) and doesnt provide good racing, considering my point of view about the last races they had.

UK has a lot of circuits (Brands Hatch, Silverstone, Oulton Park, Mallory Park, Snetterton, Donnington Park and so on...) and they could rotate them so F1 would reach every place in UK every year. For France I'd get rid of Magny Cours and take F1 back to Paul Ricard.

A Portuguese GP could help Tiago Monteiro here, his sponsors would have more interest to support him a lot more. So I would bring back Estoril.

For the german GP I agree with the rotation between Nurby and New Hockenheim. I have to admit, the new Hockenheim is a lot more interesting than the old Hockenheim.

Indianapolis has nothing to spice up my interest and if F1 wants to stay in USA they should change the venue of the race. What are the options? I'd bring back the Mexican GP at Hermanos Rodriguez...

Spa is a classic challenging and awesome track like others (Monaco, Monza...) and should ALWAYS be in F1.

Tracks like Shanghai and Sepang could be removed to receive the new circuits that Bernie wants to put in F1 in 2010. We could bring back South Africa at Kyalami too, I remember to have seen a nice race there in 1993.

01 Adelaide AUSTRALIA
02 Sepang MALAYSIA or Kyalami SOUTH AFRICA
03 Interlagos BRAZIL
04 Estoril PORTUGAL
05 Barcelona SPAIN
06 Monte Carlo MONACO
07 Montreal CANADA
08 (Open, US GP or Mexican GP) UNITED STATES/MEXICO
09 Paul Ricard FRANCE
10 British GP Rotation ENGLAND
11 German GP Rotation GERMANY
12 Hungaroing HUNGARY
13 Istambul TURKEY
14 Monza ITALY
15 Spa Francorchamps BELGIUM
16 Shanghai CHINA
17 Suzuka JAPAN

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theres absaloutly no chance of a GP at brands hatch. First theres the obvious safety changes needed and then the small matter of the people living right next to the GP circuit having a massive say on what does and dosnt go on at the circuit.

Back to the number of races I think 20 is too many, i actually prefered having to wait a couple weeks for a race + with alot of races you can soon forget events :D

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Indianapolis has nothing to spice up my interest and if F1 wants to stay in USA they should change the venue of the race. What are the options? I'd bring back the Mexican GP at Hermanos Rodriguez...

No no no no no, Indy sucks, but sod Mexico, thats not America! Elkhart lake backwards, and if they cant hack the bumps, tough sh!t

What about Long Beach again?

Adelaide won't happen again unfortunately, I think Melbourne has a contract until 2010 or something like that.

it should be a street course in the USA, Indy is rubbish.

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I believe that if the calendar goes up to 20 races, it would be a nice idea that old rule of only the, e.g., 15 better results count.

As for the tracks themselves, this is the list of the 20 that I would like to see in a season:

- fly-away opener -
1 BRAZIL - Interlagos
2 MALAYSIA - Sepang
3 TURKEY - Istambul
- europe part I -
4 EUROPE GP 1 - rotating tracks every year, like Imola, Nurburgring, Barcelona, Magny-Cours, Donington or Hungaroring.
5 MONACO - Monte Carlo
6 FRANCE - Paul Ricard
7 SPAIN - Jerez
8 PORTUGAL - Estoril
- fly-away mid-season -
9 CANADA - Montreal
10 UNITED STATES - Watkins Glen or Elkhart Lake
11 MEXICO - Hermanos Rodriguez
- europe part II -
12 GREAT BRITTAIN - Silverstone
13 NETHERLANDS - Zandvoort
14 BELGIUM - Spa-Francorchamps
15 GERMANY - Hockenheim
16 ITALY - Monza
17 EUROPE GP 2 - same rotation as the #1, using "spare" tracks
- fly-away closing -
18 CHINA - Shangai
19 JAPAN - Suzuka
20 AUSTRALIA - Adelaide

This way, we have a season with half of the races out of Europe, and 2 "new" tracks every year...

I think they should just switch the new Hockenheim for the old one, and Indy with a street race, in New York, take Sepang out, bring Suzuka back, switch Magny with Paul Picard

but to be honest i dont mind 20 races, as long as they dont do half of them at boring circuits like mentioned before

ps: at Elkhart would be good for a f-1 race, but Watkins, i don't think it suits an f-1 there anymore, i just can picture it, Cuz the Nascar part it's good but it's too small, and the IRL track sucks big time

Here's how I think it could be in a few years:

1 Australia, Melbourne
2 Malaysia, Sepang
3 South Korea, Seoul
4 Bahrain, Manama
5 European GP, Nurburgring, Imola, Spa alternating
6 Spain, Barcelona
7 Monte Carlo, Monaco
8 Canada, Montreal
9 USA, Long Beach (hopefully!)
10 Mexico, Cancun
11 France, Magny Cours
12 GB, Silverstone
13 Germany, Hockenheim
14 South Africa, Cape Town
15 Turkey, Istanbul
16 Italy, Monza
17 India, TBC
18 China, Shanghai
19 Japan, Fuji
20 Brazil

At least 12 of the 20 outside Europe

I like the idea of expanding the calendar, but I don't rate only counting a certain number of results, I think every race should count.

The more races the better IMO. I really dont understand people complaining about more races.

i agree, more races is better surely with the money saved on the tyre war and engine development it shouldnt be a problem to expand the calendar? the teams are also getting a bigger slice of the cake (money distribution) with the new munich agreement in place too. the only reason they could be picky is that they dont want to stretch themselves too much and exhaust the team...but then i guess the calendar time itself could be extended instead of having more back to back races?

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The idea is to reduce the amount of testing and increase the number of Grand Prix. Personally i think 17 is a good number as has been stated already, you tend to forget the earlier races in the year when you get to the end. The only problem i see is the FIA getting rid of the circuits with character for the bland circuits with great facilities and if that is the case I'd rather have more races to keep the great circuits like Spa, Monza, Silverstone and Suzuka in the calender.

Personally I think that the F-1 drivers (as well as some soccer players) gain too much money, more than they worth...

NASCAR drivers race 36 times in a year (and each race lasts more than 3 hours) and none of them complains about the number of races... And they receive a quarter of a F-1 driver...

If the teams complain that the money is lacking, why don't they reduce the payment of the drivers???

And one more thing: racing 20 times a year, they won't find time to gain a awful belly like Montoya did =D