Montoya confesses why he left F1 bored

The only thing I know is that I'm latin, and must of us are warm people, who get excited by single things. European people is more cold. I see it that way, so, that's why I don't find it exciting now.

About the thing that he's sh¡t with fans, people who watch F1 can't say anything about it. Maybe if we were talking about MotoGP, but it's F1, and the contact with people is extremelly restringed. Who's to blame then?

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You cant say it for sure. Because they had to make a bet, what tyre was the right for the current conditions, and they had 2 cars so they decide to run them with different compounds to find out which one was the best. It happened, luckily, to be Jenson's tyres, so I dont give a damn to Rubens, I want to see him replaced by Davidson!

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

He was always overated. He is the most obnoxious, arrogant driver ever.
He will hardly succeed in NASCAR with that attitude.
He hardly ever tested (Raikkonen had more miles in both the MP4-20 and MP4-21)ude.
He says he got tired of a bad car: So what??, Mika Hakkinen drove bad McLarens from 1993 to 1997 and never complained. At the end, he got a very good reward.
So did Button, these two drivers have been humble and worked hard to achieve their goals.
That's why he got sacked, he thought being a F1 driver was about racing the car on the weekends and not developing it.

A user called JPMrules, digging into JPM?

*sniff sniff* I love the smell of sour grapes in the morning!

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Lol, the irony! Maybe he should change his name to JPMsucks!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2006 12:01PM by mikef1.

Probably rules stands for something

R'
U'
Low
Enuff,
@#$%&!!?

anyways, i agree with him., you are supposed to make yourself a champion, not have people make you one!! if you know what i mean..

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> He hardly ever tested (Raikkonen had more miles in both the MP4-20 and
> MP4-21)ude.


not true at all ...before the season Kimi tested less than anyone else.Montoya tested quite often but according to many sources he only said that the car was crap and stuff like that and he didnt helped the team at all.

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> sometimes its dangerous giving autographs, i know id hate it
> > when 200 people run at you and give you no room. why dont you
> call
> > alonso a jerk too...
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> YES IT IS, SOMETIMES ONE OF THOSE PEN CAN SPLASH INK RIGHT AT YOUR
> FACE
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> i'm not talking about autographs.... it is boring when 200 people run
> to you, but he does it everytime, and kick people out of his
> restaurant in bogota
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> anyways, for me he can f*ck right off, i don't care i was just telling
> a story

you can f*ck write off, no need for that sort of language, its obvious your full of hatred and jealousy and need help. ive seen him signing autographs many times, so i dont care for your 'story', so f*ck off slash (mods, i assume its ok for me to talk like this, cos its ok for him to talk like this, and thats the only reason i did) and if he kicked people out of his resteraunt it was probably for a reason, probably kicked you out for you hatred towards him. id kick people like you out.

calm down, does he gives you any money for you to defend him?

ps: i never told you to f*uck right off

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> Probably rules stands for something
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> @#$%&!!?
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> anyways, i agree with him., you are supposed to make yourself a
> champion, not have people make you one!! if you know what i mean..


No, i dont know what you mean. No driver in history made himselr champion. Every driver in history had the team help make himself champion.

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> No, i dont know what you mean. No driver in history made himselr
> champion. Every driver in history had the team help make himself
> champion.
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Not every driver...

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> (mods, i assume its ok for me to talk like this, cos its ok for
> him to talk like this, and thats the only reason i did)

Well, actually it is balancing on the edge, but I am not receiving any complaints about it. I'll mod this thread if I have to, but I am done talking JPM here. The amount of haters and their vile attitudes is baffling and not worth engaging IMHO. And regarding Slash, yeah I have read his posts and I agree. He does need help.

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> Not every driver...
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name some then
And dont say Senna because without him being taken up by Mclaren he would have waited longer to be a champion and the only other team would be Williams/Benneton as history shows us.

I think Slash and Senna are trying to split the differences of someone like Micheal and someone like hmm lets say DC?

Micheal makes the championship his own, DC would need others to do it.

But ofc, no driver can win a WDC on his or her() own :P

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> > > No, i dont know what you mean. No driver in history made
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> himself
> > > champion.
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> > Not every driver...
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> name some then
> And dont say Senna because without him being taken up by Mclaren he
> would have waited longer to be a champion and the only other team
> would be Williams/Benneton as history shows us.
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Why not? He could have won a championship when he was at Lotus, if they had given to him a reliable car. Lotus lacked reliability, that's the only reason why he left them to join McLaren. He already had Honda engines and brought them with him.

But if you want a name, I can give you Jim Clark.

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Jim Clark won championships in cars that were the best on the grid, designed by Colin Chapman. whilst they broke alot, they were by far the class of the field usually.

clark himself gave alot of credit to the car when he took the championships.

I repeat: NO DRIVER has won the championship, or even a RACE, on his own with no help from the team.

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> Jim Clark won championships in cars that were the best on the grid,
> designed by Colin Chapman. whilst they broke alot, they were by far
> the class of the field usually.
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> clark himself gave alot of credit to the car when he took the
> championships.
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> I repeat: NO DRIVER has won the championship, or even a RACE, on his
> own with no help from the team.
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I could continue the discussion because we have some names in F1's hall of fame (except SHITmacher) that won the championship without any help such as team orders or changing cars (so it wont include Fangio too) but we'll never agree on it so let it go

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"I'm an artist, the track is my canvas, and the car is my brush."

"Lotus lacked reliability, that's the only reason why he left them to join McLaren. He already had Honda engines and brought them with him."

Senna's '87 Lotus was reliable but slow. He wanted to go to Mclaren in order to win the world championship and beat Prost who was regarded as the best driver at the time.

"Jim Clark won championships in cars that were the best on the grid, designed by Colin Chapman. whilst they broke alot, they were by far the class of the field usually"

Yep, as great as he was Clark usually had the best cars in F1.

I could continue the discussion because we have some names in F1's hall of fame (except SHITmacher) that won the championship without any help such as team orders or changing cars (so it wont include Fangio too) but we'll never agree on it so let it go

I didnt say team orders, i said help from the TEAM. The team also designs, builds and maintains the cars. they put the fuel in, they put the tyres on. Name ONE driver who won the world title with NO team?

Thats not a case of disagreeing. Its a FACT - Drivers need TEAMS to win.

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Hold on, hold on... JACK BRABHAM won the Championship in a car HE built!!

Surely that counts as a driver winning the World Championship on his own?

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