The Michael Schumacher thread

i agree 100% with jv, and its true that his fans have a clouded mind. when i started watching f1, i was stupid enough to go for the guy winning (schumacher at that time), and took me a few years to realise that he is a complete jerkoff, and it wasnt the smartest thing to jump onto the winners band wagon. i cant wait to he leaves f1, we have seen races like last year at suzuka, where he isnt at the front, and the race was 100 times better then any of his wins, f1 will be better when he leaves. but i suspect he will stay next year, cos bridgestone tyres will make it easy for him, and that seems to be the way he likes to win, without a fight, cos when he does have to fight, hes rubbish, like last week at hungaroring (hit fisichella to break his own wing, jumped chicane and cuttoff delarosa(very dangerous and unsporstman), spun, and then retired when yet again he collided with someone in wheel to wheel).

and its true that his fans have a clouded mind

Can't agree more. Not all of his fans of course, but a big amout of them see MS as someone who can't do anything wrong. But then, some Senna fans have the same, but it's about MS now :P

@ Adam, have you seen any of his awesome races like Hungary '98, Barcelona '96, Monaco and Spa '97? even if you don't like the guy (which you obviously do) can you not see what good things he has done in his career? or will you forever moan about Adelaide '94, Jerez '97? you say his fans have clouded minds for forgiving him for everything (i don't), but people like you have clouded minds the other way, hating him no matter what he has done or does now. i bet if he gave away all his money to charity and went to live in a tent, you'd find some reason to complain about that.

as for JV's comments, fair enough, that's his opinion, but i doubt MS will be so easily forgotten as he suggests. JV himself will be forgotten far quicker than MS will, IMO.

@ Nick, yes some MS fans see him as someone who can do no wrong, but Senna fans seem to be even worse, they see their hero as a God, which obviously he wasn't.

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RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael



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as a few mates have said name a great pass that MS has done?

We can all name some from mansell, jv, senna, berger, dc, alonso, kimi and others.

But we really can not think of any from MS. Am sure there has been 1 or 2.

This is not having a go at MS btw as most of his races have been from the front.

Nurburgring 1995. On Alesi at the chicane.

yep remember that one, that was a good race and yes he passed someone

"and yes he passed someone"

That actually made me laugh out loud.

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whoops did not mean it to sound like that lol he has passed a number of people. As i said we just can not remember a great move.

Any one remember Alan Jones on the bbc 1995 australian gp when alesi turned into ms half way down the str8 that was funny.

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> Lol! Are you sure he's not one of the posters on this forum!

Who knows

As usually I do not agree with some JV's comments, because MS is not going to be forgot, as TripleM said: "Success and controversy", people will remember him for the good and bad things.

There is one point I agree though:

And the sad thing is that, of course, the fans accept it - they swear black is white, in fact - just so that they can go on respecting the sport they love. And Michael takes advantage of that loyalty

Thanks GP3Hotlaps

JV wont be forgotten for two reasons

1 he is gilles son

2 he is a world champion




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we have seen races like last year at suzuka, where he isnt at the front, and the race was 100 times better then any of his wins

IIRC he was fighting in a bad car against FA and KR and that made the race interesting.

as a few mates have said name a great pass that MS has done?

Last year in brazil against GF

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JV is bitter. MS will be remembered alot more than JV will be remembered.
MS will be remembered for all he has done good and bad. Why is it that he alone has his own thread on this forum? says something tbh

He also through it up the inside of Alesi at La Source - Spa '97.

and he overtook JV in the pouring rain at Barcelona '96 on his way to taking his 1st ferrari win IIRC.

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RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael



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I remember Spa '95 as one of his best races for overtaking, he used to do it more at Benetton than at Ferrari but he did a good job overtaking in Monaco this year.

@Muks tbh the Schumi fan boys are just as bad as the Senna ones from what i've read. They both can't see fault with either which is stupid.

i know they are both bad, but Senna (i mean Ayrton, not the forum member ) seems to get away with it cos he is seen as some sort of God so the fanboyism is somewhat accepted, yet the MS fanboys are not tolerated to the same degree.

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RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael

Oh, please not the "who has the purest piss" contest.

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I don't accept it at all. But I do think Ayrton became greater because of his death. Was Senna before his death already so God-ish, or did it really come after his death? I was only 4 at the time Senna died, so I don't really know.

he was a very spiritual man, and a hero for his whole country, so i think he was already a legend and god before his death, but dying just elevated him to an even greater level.

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RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael

No, he was really popular before he death and was already considered the best of all time by many, but his death created the "God" like status that some super fanboys consider him to be.