Mika or Schuie?

ok.....this is coming from the other topic..
dont have time to argue my case atm as its time to go to bed for moi as theirs school in the morn but who in your eyes is better?

For me Schumacher....far and way better than Mika..given the 1998 or 1999 Mclaren he would have walked the championship. Not too mention that he was combating those Williams in 96 and 97 in a car which was by no means such a good match.

Anywho more tomorrow.

Mika.
I think Martin Brundle made an interesting Analysis on these two and decided Mika was better, but considering MB and MS arnt best of friends it could be biased lol.

Mika in Ferrari would beat Micheal!

Mika is just an unlucky driver, like Kimi :P

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

I would say Mika has the outright racing and quickness talent....he is a performer Michael will never match him in qualifying ...BUT MS has a different set of skills that Mika does not possess such as thinking about the race and strategies, he is much better at nursing an ailling/crappy car and getting more out of it than anyone else can, he will go to any length and will put in any amount of work to achieve a goal... he is a winner.

To ask who is better is ask is blue better than red. As a driver I have no preference at all I apreciate both their skill sets, but I could never honestly compare them.

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Mika No more word

Hard to say.

Mika had the best car when he won the 98/99 championships.
Michael had the best car when he won the 2K/01/02/03/04 championships.

Mika's always had a crap teammate and was better than him.
Michael had awesome teammates (Irvine, Barrichello) and was so much better than them.

So I'd have to go with Michael.

Tom2681 Wrote:
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> Mika's always had a crap teammate and was better
> than him.
> Michael had awesome teammates (Irvine,
> Barrichello) and was so much better than them.
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> So I'd have to go with Michael.

So you think Irvine is better than Coulthard? LOL LOL LOL

I still do not know why Ferrari signed up Irvine, he only won those races in 1999, because other driver's problems and car failures, and off course because Salo let him win ;P

But about the main question, after Senna and Prost are not racing, Schumacher is the best on the grid.


Thanks GP3Hotlaps



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2006 04:51AM by vbc.

you would call irvine and barrichello "awesome"?

i think they're both very good drivers but they dont belong in the 'awesome' category.

i was always a hakkinen fan, so i guess i'd have to go with him. i think on his day, he was frighteningly fast and noone could match him. think nurburgring 98, spa 2000 or even britain 2001. it is unfortunate that hakkinen had to wait until late 1997 before he had a half decent car, and he probably wasted his best years fighting in inferior equipment - a problem that schumacher never had. in 2001 though, he became demoralised with the poor speed and reliability of the mclaren and his performances suffered. having now gotten used to the idea of a competitive car, mika just gave up.

it wasnt by accident that schumacher has had better machinery (as i touched on before). he did impressive things in mercedes sports cars, signed for jordan and impressed them, and as we all know, certainly impressed flavio briatore and bernie ecclestone so much that by the next race he was sitting in a benetton alongside piquet. his performances in 1996 and 1997 when he didnt have the best car were superb, and being able to take the 97 championship down to the wire was a tremendous feat (despite villeneuve's repeated attempts to lose the title...but thats another topic).

i would compare hakkinen's 2001 with schumacher's 2005. both poor seasons by their standards, but it was schumacher who never gave up and continued to give it his all...unlike hakkinen who pretty well just crumbled and faded away into retirement.

If you compare their careers in F1 then MS is above and beyond. IMO it's the only way to compare them as they have been in different cars but were racing around roughly the same time.

I take it you found that article, Mini?

Anyways, Michael Schumacher without a shade of doubt, Mika was just a good driver and only won because he had the most absolutely amazingly best car.

over one lap mika but race distance ms some times mika would lose pace.

racing wise mika, some of his passing moves are the best.

mika only ever had a winning car for 4 years and in 2 of them he was world champ.

as said a million times before 1998 and 1999 were hard work due to car problems and racing every driver on the track.

and in 1995 mika nearly died so to come back like he did is amazing.

Mika is also a cleaner racer and does not false people off the track at 200 mph.

the only time we saw them in equal cars was in f3 and ms had to make mika crash to beat him.





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Mika.
schu has too many bad moments (jerez, adelaide, austria..), and that move at spa is enough

besides, Mika will be champion this year :D

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Tony

what move at Spa?

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Tony

I remember when i saw that.
Just could not believe it!!

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

u mean the lap before when ms nearly pushed him off the track?

That pass by mika was one of the best i have seen, even better when u see it from in car

i would have to say mika, because i have always thought he was brilliant

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I think it's arguable that Michael's the bigger driver, but i was always much more of a Mika fan so i'm biased slightly.

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marcl Wrote:
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> the only time we saw them in equal cars was in f3
> and ms had to make mika crash to beat him.
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Mika only needed to become second to win but he liked more to crash with MS.. He (Mika) did also crash with his team mates "bit" too many times. You cant find good driver as MS if you cant wakeup dead people and it is still possible he would be better and faster than them.

Kimi, so, Massa Fernando Sebastian is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?

They're both amazingly good drivers, just as Prost and Senna were, but similarly have very different skills.

In my opinion, Mika has more natural speed, but Michael is the whole package - quick enough to compete in equal machinery, but harboring a whole arsenal of tactics, and the ability to knuckle down and put in some metronome performances when he needs to.

I think Michael's the better overall driver, but no doubt Mika has beaten him fair and square on occasion.

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Schumacher, no doubt about it. I could write a two page story why do I think so, but that's not my style.

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