Sauber name to stay in F1

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BMW to retain Sauber name

BMW Sauber F1 is to be the official title of BMW



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/14/2005 10:13PM by Team CLR.

thats so BMW can blame sauber when they fall on their arses

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how?

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I think thats a nice gesture.

Peat Wrote:
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> thats so BMW can blame sauber when they fall on
> their arses
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well, kinda - it just covers them if (when) they suck "we're not bmw yet, transitional year" etc.

i think its nice as well rbr should have done the same with minardi rather than go for an italian name

well happy but i agree its just to cover bmw

if they're half decent in 2006, it'll just be BMW in 2007

if they're useless in 2006, it'll be SAUBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................................................................................(bmw) in 2007

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nono

its a gesture.. and to call it BMW noww. well its not BMW yet is it? the car is 100% sauber atm.

not until 07 will it be BMW... i mean the transition will be fully completed by then

and u really think BMW will fall?? haha lol no..

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

that says a lot about what they think their performance will be in '06...


Saludos desde Colombia.

sauber was more than just Peter.

look at mclaren - ron's kept the name for 30+ years

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Tony

well, Ron it's not a brand like BMW is, so it's totally different.


Saludos desde Colombia.

As above.

It insulates BMW from any failure this year.

Regarding Ron Dennis keeping the McLaren name. Thats just sensible actually. If Ron had renamed it to "Project 4" it would of lost too much heritage and soul of the company. Maybe Pooky could help here. Do the McLaren family still own any part of McLaren. (I know the DC 40%/ RD 30% and MO30% deal) maybe it was part of the deal for Ron and Mansour to buy it that they would rename?

Im sure when Frank Williams retires (or more likely dies as I cant see him selling voluntarily) whoever buys should keep the name. I think thats why he didnt want to sell to BMW

True, FW would rather die actually than have someone buy out his team, so I think that whoever "inherits" the team eventually will have no choice but to keep the name.

In fact he's probably got some crazy contract on it somewhere.

Wouldn't surprise me anyway

minardi said he regrets selling the name of the team its like ferrari being called fiat

I could never imagine Fiat renaming Ferrari though. Unlike Minardi the Maranello squad have a rich history.

minardi fans would say the same thing as do jordan fans

Minardi should direct his complaints to a bearded aussie with a rolex watch

And i don't think he is stupid enough to compare his team to Ferrari

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2005 06:40PM by tripleM.

no part of mclaren family owns the company now - joint owned between ron, mansour ojei and daimler chrylser (mercedes benz arm)

gary paffett was in canteen at work today - he is in having a seat fitting ready for his F1 test

nice bloke, hope he goes well

marcl Wrote:
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> minardi fans would say the same thing as do jordan
> fans


Jordan won what 3 races in 14 years?
Minarid won nothing, how manypodiums is 19 or so years?
Sauber havent won in F1 but did resonably well in Sportscars.

Wheres the sporting history?

Of the teams still on the grid. Only Ferrari, Williams, McLaren and Renault/Benetton have ever won more than 10 races in their current setup. Honda have won in the past, but not as a full team that has stayed in F1 constantly.

EDIT FOR POOKY

Do you know if that was one of the criteria that Ron had to adhere to when he bought it back in the early 80s. I.e He couldnt change the name to "Project 4" Or did he choose not to change it?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2005 08:15PM by Nemesis78.