MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM

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MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 08:30PM
Posted by: LS.
Max Mosley is reported to be discussing possibilities for Formula 1 cars to feature a regenerative power system that would help overtaking.

Heat and energy generated during heavy braking would be stored in a battery, and used to give drivers an extra burst of power for short periods, according to The Guardian.

This could increase passing opportunities as cars would be using the 'boost' at different times.

Mosley envisages a low-tech, low-downforce future for F1, but the teams and manufacturers are ambivalent about his vision.

They want F1 to be at the cutting edge of automotive technology.

Mosley hopes that the regenerative system would be high-tech enough to appease the manufacturers, while also achieving another of his aims by helping overtaking.

"This concept has had an enthusiastic response from the car makers," said Mosley. "We want to get the emphasis away from hidden technology, whereas this would have direct relevance."

The recent FIA/AMD survey revealed that while fans want to see more overtaking, they also want F1 to retain its reputation for technological excellence.

The drivers have a similar opinion.






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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 08:34PM
Posted by: Nickv
Didn't that already exist?
Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 08:40PM
Posted by: LS.
maybe on the Ferrari ;)




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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 08:47PM
Posted by: jonny
sounds crap. can wait.

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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 09:44PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Williams had a similar system in 2002 when they could lift the Rev Limit off the engine for a short period of time (a few seconds) if required and if the situation was sutible.

Thats not really a fair option right now as some engines will simply give up if you raise the rev limit (Mercedes...Honda...) and with engines meant to last 2 races engine failures are bad news (as Kimi is finding out)

CART uses a system where you can use, what effectivly is a Nitrous Oxide system (thats NOS to all you ricers and Fast And Furious people out there), which only lasts a certain ammount of time.

this seems to be different as the battery used to generate the boost will be charged each time you brake? So effectivly, its like Nitrous Oxide but it refills itself, allowing it to be used for the whole race as long as you dont use it constantly.

Not sure if i like that at all. Seems very artificial and very "rice" to me

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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 09:46PM
Posted by: six degrees
he'll get go faster stripes to put on the cars next :)
Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 10:03PM
Posted by: tripleM
Why would it appease the manufacturers when it will be developed by the FIA?


Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 10:11PM
Posted by: Nik_I
DaveEllis Wrote:
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> Williams had a similar system in 2002 when they
> could lift the Rev Limit off the engine for a
> short period of time (a few seconds) if required
> and if the situation was sutible.
>
> Thats not really a fair option right now as some
> engines will simply give up if you raise the rev
> limit (Mercedes...Honda...) and with engines meant
> to last 2 races engine failures are bad news (as
> Kimi is finding out)
>
> CART uses a system where you can use, what
> effectivly is a Nitrous Oxide system (thats NOS to
> all you ricers and Fast And Furious people out
> there), which only lasts a certain ammount of
> time.
>
> this seems to be different as the battery used to
> generate the boost will be charged each time you
> brake? So effectivly, its like Nitrous Oxide but
> it refills itself, allowing it to be used for the
> whole race as long as you dont use it constantly.
>
>
> Not sure if i like that at all. Seems very
> artificial and very "rice" to me
>
>
> vMax.Ellis
> Velocity Maximum Simulation Racing
> www.vMaxSR.com
>
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> Life burns from the touch of the reaper


pretty much all of f1 is already artificial tho
Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 10:13PM
Posted by: danm


bit dangerous if it goes off at the wrong moment - say u power it then crash the car at increased speed :|


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2005 10:14PM by danm.
Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 10:14PM
Posted by: iCeMaN pAuL
If the car behind activates the "boost" to help himself pass the car in front, won't the car in front also activate the "boost" to even up the speed??

This only works is 1 car has "boost" turned on.

If I had a car which has a "boost" feature as described above, and I had a car screaming up behind me, I think I'd activate it.




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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 11:16PM
Posted by: mikef1
I think that the FIA should concentrate more on reducing downforce and increasing tyre grip, that in itself should promote better racing and would not need gimicks such as a boost button to improve on track action.
Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 12, 2005 11:26PM
Posted by: iCeMaN pAuL
Take all the rules and regulations back to how they were in 1997, then ban development. Simple. :D




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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 13, 2005 08:53AM
Posted by: Locke Cole
Yeah, this 'Boost' thing will most likely kill overtaking, although the FIA probably don't think of it that way. As soon as anyone starts to get bothered by a quicker car behind them, they'll jump on the Boost down the straight. And the car in front will always be on it quicker, as is true of the throttle pedal.



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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 13, 2005 10:15AM
Posted by: Joeku
they should just go back to 1986 type cars (of course make them safer)they rock. I was watching mansels grand rpix victories and some of the overtaking moves on piquet are great.

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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 13, 2005 11:38AM
Posted by: matthewp
I think that the FIA should concentrate more on reducing downforce and increasing tyre grip, that in itself should promote better racing and would not need gimicks such as a boost button to improve on track action.

spot on, also they need to start taking out some chicanes from tracks like Imola, they were needed at the time but we've reached a point where they can be taken away and the tracks are still not dangerous.

they should just go back to 1986 type cars (of course make them safer)they rock. I was watching mansels grand rpix victories and some of the overtaking moves on piquet are great.

you cant just tell the engineers to forget everything they've learned about aerodynamics in 20 years.





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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 13, 2005 12:18PM
Posted by: Priddo
and F1 becomes more like CART.....
Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 13, 2005 12:54PM
Posted by: marcl
well if they got rid of this 2 race engine rule we might get more over taking as people are no longer driving flat out light to flag and are not following too close as they dont wanna over heat the engine.

And people are not diving down the inside anymore as they risk doing there tyres in.

The new rules have destroyed passing simple as that.
Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 13, 2005 12:54PM
Posted by: b-tone
MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM

in other news david hasselhoff is rumoured to be entering formula 1 with a classic yet revolutionary car.

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Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 13, 2005 01:19PM
Posted by: alonso
My opinion:

Two cans of NOS in the sidepods of the car. Button to the steering wheel and a way to goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Why there is not anymore turbos in those cars? I havent got any reason why they were taken off. And by the way, it's nice sound in a car with turbo :)




Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/13/2005 06:45PM by alonso.
Re: MOSLEY SUGGESTS 'BOOST' SYSTEM
Date: July 13, 2005 01:44PM
Posted by: marcl
next year they will sound like bikes
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