Tarmac run off areas?!

Do you like tarmac run off areas that so many tracks are having now eg. The new turkey track, instead of grass and gravel? I prefered the tracks without the run off areas as punished the drivers for mistakes. Now they can just drive as wide as possible and doesn't matter. DOWN WITH TARMAC RUN OFF AREAS!!! What do you think?

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all about saftey..

imho i think its good.. for racing also.. allows them to push.. they knw they will not be punished as much..

good question..

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at all tracks there should be a mixture of concrete barriers, big cliffs and ocean like at monaco. tarmac runoffs are crap.

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It makes life easier - they don't get punished for their mistakes. Takes a bit of the challenge away... too easy

I reckon a nice 2 metre strip of gravel, then tarmac would = safety and a deterent

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If i would be a track designer i wouldnt even think about puting tarmac run off areas. I only came up with this as when i was on GP4, i was drove through a number of updated tracks, to only find that a number of places which were gravel are now tarmac :S

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2005 08:57PM by jonny.

yeah i'm not a fan of tarmac run-offs either. they look very unsightly. give me grass and gravel anyday! :D

how about like in the 50's. grass, and trees

Yup, trees would be a deterrent against bad driving

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Definitely go for gravel. Take A1-Ring for example; that first corner used to be a real challenge to judge it correctly, slow down and still get a decent exit speed for the straight. Now you can just drive straight off the race track and utilise the run-off area. It sucks.

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we're not drivers and i guess they are the ones who should judge it, they're who are risking their lives

Just put gravel everywhere. No more tarmac outside corners and it isnt safe at all. If there was a tarmac run off area in Silverstone '99, Schumacher would have broken a lot more then a leg.
And remove the tarmac in chicanes too, like Monza or Montreal that will stop the "oops, i accidenetly (spelling) cut off the chicane"

calimbo Wrote:
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> we're not drivers and i guess they are the ones
> who should judge it, they're who are risking their
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bah!!!

i am fully against tarmac run off areas look at france for example...brundle was commenting on how they had basically ave straight-lined the imola chicane when before it was challenging. and at adelaide corner there is just masses of tarmac

really does allow drivers to get away with bad driving....well except sato who likes tarmac

Ban them. Horrid things. And besides, safety standards are fine, just look at all the big shunts people just walk away from without a problem.

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out of personal experience, the more tamarc run-off there is, the more it is used to gain speed.

The idea of gravel then tarmac sounds good, safe but not compromising the challenge of the track.

yeah i was thinking about Brundles observations too.

@ Nickv, I don't understand your point. you're saying that if there was a tarmac runoff instead of gravel, MS would have been hurt more?

IIRC, he had a rear brake failure, so if there had been tarmac, he might have been able to slow down more due to the friction between tyre and tarmac. as it was gravel, there was no friction, so not as much speed was knocked off before he hit the barrier as could have been if it was tarmac.

there's 2 ways to look at tarmac vs gravel runoffs.

tarmac helps slow cars down better, but allows them to 'cheat' some corners, and they're made easier so some of the skill is taken away.

gravel punishes drivers who make mistakes, and can sometimes flip cars if they go in sideways, and doesn't knock much speed off, and might result in less cars in the race, but you have to be more accurate and drive better.


so i don't know which is better.

they should have a tank of human-eating sharks at the edge of every corner.

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lol at muks.. cud be good.. but a bit too extreme :P

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"Trulli was slowing down like he wanted to have a picnic" LOL

jonny Wrote:
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> Do you like tarmac run off areas that so many
> tracks are having now eg. The new turkey track,
> instead of grass and gravel? I prefered the tracks
> without the run off areas as punished the drivers
> for mistakes. Now they can just drive as wide as
> possible and doesn't matter. DOWN WITH TARMAC RUN
> OFF AREAS!!! What do you think?
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>

I agree, F1 is safe enough without them

Keep massive run off areas for safety, but stick nails in there. Then see how wide people run

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Razor blades and spikes would deter driver from running wide




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