sato the most feared driver in f1
Posted by rapid_f1
The hype has died down, Trulli isn't getting as much bad luck and has upped his game. Alonso atm is only proving a match for Trulli. Probably just a bit of denigrating going on i think.
To be honest, put Schumacher at Renault and he'd probably do the same. Pat Symmonds is a vvv clever man.
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To be honest, put Schumacher at Renault and he'd probably do the same. Pat Symmonds is a vvv clever man.
great post Zcott.
i don't think schumacher could make minardi win in 3 season if he went there. they are fundamentally so far behind at the moment, that it would need many hundreds on millions of dollars for a start, to design and build a competitive car, and then put schumacher in it to drive.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
i don't think schumacher could make minardi win in 3 season if he went there. they are fundamentally so far behind at the moment, that it would need many hundreds on millions of dollars for a start, to design and build a competitive car, and then put schumacher in it to drive.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Predictable though aint it.
"No it's not a skirt"
look, we belittle hill and villeneuve because when in not the best car on the grid by a mile, they were usually nowhere, apart from a couple of great performances. schumacher has consistently been fighting for wins/podiums in average cars.
and brawns input goes way higher than 'only to a point', but there is only so much he can do. other drivers could not pull of his strategies like michael can.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
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and brawns input goes way higher than 'only to a point', but there is only so much he can do. other drivers could not pull of his strategies like michael can.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2004 04:49PM by Muks_C.
You can always rely on Zcott to make an intelligent post. Couldn't agree more with it.
people that belittle the hill and villeneuve's wins with the comment "my granny could have won in that car" yet why do we never hear this come up especially in the last few years when the same could be said of the ferrari...
I think you're mistaking their intentions. If I ever make a comment on the dominance of the Williams or the McLarens in the late 1990s, it's to draw a comparison with the dominance of Ferrari today. I see it that Michael was able to make the difference in an inferior car, whereas nowadays, I don't think Schumacher's rivals have the ability to do that (yet - watch Raikkonen and Alonso, however).
With such a package, Villeneuve should really have won the 1997 championship well before Jerez. But I don't think he is a driver of Schumacher's calibre, plus the fact that he actually had Schumacher as a rival, who was able to take it down to the wire.
It's not such an easy case with Hakkinen in 1998 - IMO, Mika has been the only driver of the past decade to display Michael's kind of speed and application. Yet even he lacked the extraordinary racing etiquette that Schumi has displayed time and time again. The 1998 McLaren was fairly unreliable (although no less reliable than the Ferrari), but I still feel Mika should have blown Michael into the weeds with that kind of machinery - just like Michael does with everyone nowadays.
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people that belittle the hill and villeneuve's wins with the comment "my granny could have won in that car" yet why do we never hear this come up especially in the last few years when the same could be said of the ferrari...
I think you're mistaking their intentions. If I ever make a comment on the dominance of the Williams or the McLarens in the late 1990s, it's to draw a comparison with the dominance of Ferrari today. I see it that Michael was able to make the difference in an inferior car, whereas nowadays, I don't think Schumacher's rivals have the ability to do that (yet - watch Raikkonen and Alonso, however).
With such a package, Villeneuve should really have won the 1997 championship well before Jerez. But I don't think he is a driver of Schumacher's calibre, plus the fact that he actually had Schumacher as a rival, who was able to take it down to the wire.
It's not such an easy case with Hakkinen in 1998 - IMO, Mika has been the only driver of the past decade to display Michael's kind of speed and application. Yet even he lacked the extraordinary racing etiquette that Schumi has displayed time and time again. The 1998 McLaren was fairly unreliable (although no less reliable than the Ferrari), but I still feel Mika should have blown Michael into the weeds with that kind of machinery - just like Michael does with everyone nowadays.
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the '96, '97 and '98 championships should have been wrapped up way before the last round, but due to various factors (luck, unreliability, good, but not great drivers, and of course michael pushing till the end) they weren't.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
You don't always have to drive flat out to do well in a race. After all, there's a limit to how fast you can go. After you reach a certain limit you're probably going to start ruining tyres and brakes and not looking after the car as much as you could in favour of an extra few tenths a lap. Michael has the ability to go incredibly quick when he really needs to do it, such as in Montreal. If he's up at the front, he doesn't need to drive totally flat out, he just needs to drive as quick as possible within the limits of the car.
All the drivers drive within their limits rather than over it, its simply that ross has the vision that other rival team members lack, your suggesting that its only michael that can respond to a command on the radio to drive that little bit quicker.
On the subject of Ross Brawn : Modern F1 is now vastly different to that of 15 years ago when we had Mansell, Piquet, Prost, Senna etc on the scene. Due to the fact that overtaking is hard, races are won and lost in the pits, as you all know. In some ways the role of the tactician in modern F1 is kind of like that of the spotter in NASCAR. Brawn sits on the pit wall, armed with lots of data (and a banana) and calculates where Michael needs to be and when. It's up to Michael to put the plan into action. There's no way Michael would be able to do it all on his own, because at the end of the day it's Ross who decides how much fuel goes into the car, and this determines where the car will come out on the track relatives to its rivals, and also when the next stop will be. It's Ross who decides this, and Michael who executes it.
going by what you have just said, Ross plays an even bigger part in ferarri's victorys,
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All the drivers drive within their limits rather than over it, its simply that ross has the vision that other rival team members lack, your suggesting that its only michael that can respond to a command on the radio to drive that little bit quicker.
On the subject of Ross Brawn : Modern F1 is now vastly different to that of 15 years ago when we had Mansell, Piquet, Prost, Senna etc on the scene. Due to the fact that overtaking is hard, races are won and lost in the pits, as you all know. In some ways the role of the tactician in modern F1 is kind of like that of the spotter in NASCAR. Brawn sits on the pit wall, armed with lots of data (and a banana) and calculates where Michael needs to be and when. It's up to Michael to put the plan into action. There's no way Michael would be able to do it all on his own, because at the end of the day it's Ross who decides how much fuel goes into the car, and this determines where the car will come out on the track relatives to its rivals, and also when the next stop will be. It's Ross who decides this, and Michael who executes it.
going by what you have just said, Ross plays an even bigger part in ferarri's victorys,
LS's Tip of the week
ESSENTIAL OILS aren't essential unless you're an engine, a gearbox or a twat
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Toyota has the cash where are they ?
Problem is that Toyota haven't got enough good people to work in te team at the moment. And they don't have even near as much experience as Ferrari had and has.
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I am really bored with this subject.
All the drivers drive within their limits rather than over it, its simply that ross has the vision that other rival team members lack, your suggesting that its only michael that can respond to a command on the radio to drive that little bit quicker.
It's not only michael, any racing driver who considers himself a racing driver worthy of being in F1 should be able to do this. It's just that Michael is starting from a higher baseline. He's quicker than most of the pack out there, and when he needs to, he can really pull it out of the bag to go even quicker.
going by what you have just said, Ross plays an even bigger part in ferarri's victorys,
Sure, but what I'm saying is that Ross could really only do it with Michael. If Ross were to work with, say, Fisichella, I doubt he could get the same results. He has a hugely important role in telling Michael what to do, but Michael has to do it.
It's not only michael, any racing driver who considers himself a racing driver worthy of being in F1 should be able to do this. It's just that Michael is starting from a higher baseline. He's quicker than most of the pack out there, and when he needs to, he can really pull it out of the bag to go even quicker.
going by what you have just said, Ross plays an even bigger part in ferarri's victorys,
Sure, but what I'm saying is that Ross could really only do it with Michael. If Ross were to work with, say, Fisichella, I doubt he could get the same results. He has a hugely important role in telling Michael what to do, but Michael has to do it.
Anyway,here's a question for LS,you,andrew_S etc,why Benetton with Brawn and the bulk of the team which one 3 championships in 2 years failed to beat Ferrari without Brawn and with most of the team carried over from 1995.
sorry but i dont understand what you mean,
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sorry but i dont understand what you mean,
LS's Tip of the week
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@ fraplee
read it again, its not hard to understand, try taking those red blinkers off
LS's Tip of the week
ESSENTIAL OILS aren't essential unless you're an engine, a gearbox or a twat
read it again, its not hard to understand, try taking those red blinkers off
LS's Tip of the week
ESSENTIAL OILS aren't essential unless you're an engine, a gearbox or a twat
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