The Official 2018 Formula One Season
Posted by madotter
The shapes like I said all seem to be converging more than ever.
It would have been nice if Williams had refreshed the Martini livery just a little bit, but it's alright. The Mercedes is always going to be 'Silver Arrows' so there's no point whining about that one as it's their definite colour as much as 'Rosso Corsa' is to Ferrari which I am delighted to see has been spruced into a slightly darker more metallic shade with much less white. The Renault is pretty snazzy as their corporate colours usually are. I'm not keen on the Alfa Romeo Sauber. The McLaren is cool, not so much for the OMFGZ original McLaren colours but for bringing some colour diversity to the grid. We need a green car back too. Can't Judge on the Red Bull since it's not the race livery and of-course we're yet to see the Force India.
I'm quite looking forward this season at the moment.
I hope that there is a real chance that there could be a three team fight at the top between Merc, Ferrari and Red Bull. A three way tussle between Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen could be just the stuff and don't rule out Danny Ric either. Bottas could win some more races.. but I doubt he'd properly push Hamilton in the championship. Kimi... mostly on cruise control these days wouldn't be allowed to touch Vettel anyway so meh.
The Midfield should be no less exciting. It will be fascinating to see how Forced India deal with expected resurgences from Renault and McLaren. I think Renault ought to continue their general trend of improvement and I suspect that eventually, in the next few years they will be a title contender again like in their previous works team era. McLaren have a smaller engine shadow to hide in this year. Frankly, I think they dropped the ball before the end of V8 era but even so this Renault customership for them ought to help make up for the last three years. I'd be surprised if we didn't see Alonso on the podium at least once. And if we get one of those odd weekends or funky circumstances, then I think he could be right in there.
Williams will probably make some good progress with the car, Lowe is not a complete Muppet and he's succeeded in pushing through some much needed changes in aerodynamic philosophy. So the car itself will be closer to the pace. But in all likelihood they will slide further down the constructors championship. This will be due to a combination of the likely resurgence by both Renault and McLaren allied to the fact that their driver line up will quite simply be the weakest in F1. I'm confident that Sirotkin will be perfectly competent and he will score decent points when the car is capable. But look at the direct competition: Perez/Ocon/Hulkenberg/Sainz/Alonso/Vandoorne/Grosjean/Magunessen/Hartley/Gasly/Leclerc. That's going to be tough.
I sense Toro Rosso will have more fruitful time with Honda than McLaren did. Red Bull are more interested in building them up into a tangible choice for the works team. Plus Honda have stopped with the old 'fresh sheet' every year approach for this year. There is a much better chance that many of the reliability niggles will be ironed out this time and they should have more opportunity to develop some performance. They're not going to be utterly brilliant obviously.. but not disastrously pathetic either.
Hass, yeah they will be in that midfield group. For what they are, they are seriously impressive. But I don't see how they could graduate past the midfield with the way F1 is currently.
Sauber, well they have really very few excuses to be the tailend charlie this year. Engine back upto current spec. Funding back to relative parity with the midfield privateers and an increased relationship with Ferrari.
Make no mistake.. this is a quality grid we have here. We'll have no old school team being several seconds off the nearest competitor at the back. This year we'll have the title chase up front and then simply the 'midfield'.
It would have been nice if Williams had refreshed the Martini livery just a little bit, but it's alright. The Mercedes is always going to be 'Silver Arrows' so there's no point whining about that one as it's their definite colour as much as 'Rosso Corsa' is to Ferrari which I am delighted to see has been spruced into a slightly darker more metallic shade with much less white. The Renault is pretty snazzy as their corporate colours usually are. I'm not keen on the Alfa Romeo Sauber. The McLaren is cool, not so much for the OMFGZ original McLaren colours but for bringing some colour diversity to the grid. We need a green car back too. Can't Judge on the Red Bull since it's not the race livery and of-course we're yet to see the Force India.
I'm quite looking forward this season at the moment.
I hope that there is a real chance that there could be a three team fight at the top between Merc, Ferrari and Red Bull. A three way tussle between Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen could be just the stuff and don't rule out Danny Ric either. Bottas could win some more races.. but I doubt he'd properly push Hamilton in the championship. Kimi... mostly on cruise control these days wouldn't be allowed to touch Vettel anyway so meh.
The Midfield should be no less exciting. It will be fascinating to see how Forced India deal with expected resurgences from Renault and McLaren. I think Renault ought to continue their general trend of improvement and I suspect that eventually, in the next few years they will be a title contender again like in their previous works team era. McLaren have a smaller engine shadow to hide in this year. Frankly, I think they dropped the ball before the end of V8 era but even so this Renault customership for them ought to help make up for the last three years. I'd be surprised if we didn't see Alonso on the podium at least once. And if we get one of those odd weekends or funky circumstances, then I think he could be right in there.
Williams will probably make some good progress with the car, Lowe is not a complete Muppet and he's succeeded in pushing through some much needed changes in aerodynamic philosophy. So the car itself will be closer to the pace. But in all likelihood they will slide further down the constructors championship. This will be due to a combination of the likely resurgence by both Renault and McLaren allied to the fact that their driver line up will quite simply be the weakest in F1. I'm confident that Sirotkin will be perfectly competent and he will score decent points when the car is capable. But look at the direct competition: Perez/Ocon/Hulkenberg/Sainz/Alonso/Vandoorne/Grosjean/Magunessen/Hartley/Gasly/Leclerc. That's going to be tough.
I sense Toro Rosso will have more fruitful time with Honda than McLaren did. Red Bull are more interested in building them up into a tangible choice for the works team. Plus Honda have stopped with the old 'fresh sheet' every year approach for this year. There is a much better chance that many of the reliability niggles will be ironed out this time and they should have more opportunity to develop some performance. They're not going to be utterly brilliant obviously.. but not disastrously pathetic either.
Hass, yeah they will be in that midfield group. For what they are, they are seriously impressive. But I don't see how they could graduate past the midfield with the way F1 is currently.
Sauber, well they have really very few excuses to be the tailend charlie this year. Engine back upto current spec. Funding back to relative parity with the midfield privateers and an increased relationship with Ferrari.
Make no mistake.. this is a quality grid we have here. We'll have no old school team being several seconds off the nearest competitor at the back. This year we'll have the title chase up front and then simply the 'midfield'.
In 69 years F1 has seen beautiful cars with stunnnig sounds, ugly cars that still sounded good and beautiful cars that sounded like crap. Now for the first time we officially have cars that look as ugly as they sound. Thank f*ck for that.
REHAB IS FOR QUITTERS
REHAB IS FOR QUITTERS
Mclaren seem to be having their usual spate of pathetic reliability issues (wheel nuts and exhausts so far) whereas other teams seem to be doing just fine.
Alonso claims that their problems have been very public whereas other teams have had cars in bits in the garages, not sure if there's truth to that.
Force India's car is nice
Alonso claims that their problems have been very public whereas other teams have had cars in bits in the garages, not sure if there's truth to that.
Force India's car is nice
McLaren spent the last 3 years bashing Honda but they´ve been awful at a lot of things. For example, they´re amongst the slowest pitstops for a couple of years now... Maybe the car is good but if they don´t step up their game as an organization they won´t be at the front.
Its too early to say of course, but i´d put my money on Renault challenging for podiums this year
Its too early to say of course, but i´d put my money on Renault challenging for podiums this year
gav Wrote:
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> I'm interested that you're not rating McLaren Jim.
> I think they'll be fairly hot on the heels of Red
> Bull unless Red Bull have designed a peach and are
> taking it to Ferrari and Mercedes. I'm thinking
> perhaps 2-3 tenths down on Red Bull generally at
> the start of the season. Do you think they'll be
> further back?
I certainly think that they're in for a significant overall improvement in performance and constructors position. But no, they're not going to touch Red Bull. By rights, Red Bull ought to be gunning for the championship this year. No matter how much bluster McLaren have put around I don't think we can lay the blame for the past three years soley at Honda's feet. Don't get me wrong I fully expect to see some big results for McLaren this year as we know that Alonso will extract every last bit of performance from it and then some more. Yet Mclaren dropped the ball before they partnered with Honda and quite simply they are no longer a top team. A little bit like with Williams, observers need to stop judging the team by past glories and accept that todays power houses are Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull.
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> I'm interested that you're not rating McLaren Jim.
> I think they'll be fairly hot on the heels of Red
> Bull unless Red Bull have designed a peach and are
> taking it to Ferrari and Mercedes. I'm thinking
> perhaps 2-3 tenths down on Red Bull generally at
> the start of the season. Do you think they'll be
> further back?
I certainly think that they're in for a significant overall improvement in performance and constructors position. But no, they're not going to touch Red Bull. By rights, Red Bull ought to be gunning for the championship this year. No matter how much bluster McLaren have put around I don't think we can lay the blame for the past three years soley at Honda's feet. Don't get me wrong I fully expect to see some big results for McLaren this year as we know that Alonso will extract every last bit of performance from it and then some more. Yet Mclaren dropped the ball before they partnered with Honda and quite simply they are no longer a top team. A little bit like with Williams, observers need to stop judging the team by past glories and accept that todays power houses are Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull.
I think Honda have basically kept with last years concept for this season. To basically get on top of the reliability. Previously they had kind of threw their hands up in horror thinking it was all @#$%& only to end up with worse problems.
It will be interesting to see how Honda and Toro Rosso fare, because if things start to take a positive step, then Red Bull will be eyeing them up to become the works partner. It will be interesting to see if Aston Martin would be open to a involvement in that.
It will be interesting to see how Honda and Toro Rosso fare, because if things start to take a positive step, then Red Bull will be eyeing them up to become the works partner. It will be interesting to see if Aston Martin would be open to a involvement in that.
Mclaren is reliably unreliable 
3 Full Laps Power Shutdown
Anyone getting F1 Tv in the Future? I don't get it seriously who want's to spend 100 Bucks
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The Real Story of the Race was that the Renault's fell apart and the Ferrari's didn't.
Rosberg headed for the sliproad and retired, probably because of Nicotin starvation they have still not given him a helmet with a little hole in it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/06/2018 12:25PM by Toki.
3 Full Laps Power ShutdownAnyone getting F1 Tv in the Future? I don't get it seriously who want's to spend 100 Bucks
.The Real Story of the Race was that the Renault's fell apart and the Ferrari's didn't.
Rosberg headed for the sliproad and retired, probably because of Nicotin starvation they have still not given him a helmet with a little hole in it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/06/2018 12:25PM by Toki.
If it were available to me then yes I'd definitely consider subscribing to the new F1 TV. Just so long as it is done properly and the package included the live timing etc. 100 US dollars equates to approximately 70 GP pounds. Depending on how you choose to perceive that, you can see that as under 6 pounds per month or about 3.33 pounds per grand prix weekend. That's pocket change to be fair.
It already costs me between 6-10 quid for a now tv pass to watch the SKY coverage when Channel 4 aren't allowed to broadcast live. That's every race from next year as SKY have the exclusive rights to live coverage in the UK. I don't know how much a full Sky package would cost me and as I have no intention of getting one, I'm not going to even check. I suspect it would definitely be much more than 70 pounds though.
So the F1 Tv is already looking more attractive in terms of value.
Unfortunately for me and anyone who lives in a country where a broadcaster has an exclusive deal to the live coverage then F1 Tv is not available. Although I gather Liberty are open to the those broadcasters up-selling elements of F1 Tv to their respective markets. I'm not sure I like that the sound of that.. Sky would find a way of making it significantly more costly to the viewer.
Also, they are already gearing up for the old illegal streaming trick. I hear that they are putting in strict VPN security.
It already costs me between 6-10 quid for a now tv pass to watch the SKY coverage when Channel 4 aren't allowed to broadcast live. That's every race from next year as SKY have the exclusive rights to live coverage in the UK. I don't know how much a full Sky package would cost me and as I have no intention of getting one, I'm not going to even check. I suspect it would definitely be much more than 70 pounds though.
So the F1 Tv is already looking more attractive in terms of value.
Unfortunately for me and anyone who lives in a country where a broadcaster has an exclusive deal to the live coverage then F1 Tv is not available. Although I gather Liberty are open to the those broadcasters up-selling elements of F1 Tv to their respective markets. I'm not sure I like that the sound of that.. Sky would find a way of making it significantly more costly to the viewer.
Also, they are already gearing up for the old illegal streaming trick. I hear that they are putting in strict VPN security.
Toki Wrote:
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> Mclaren is reliably unreliable 3 Full Laps
> Power Shutdown
>
> Anyone getting F1 Tv in the Future? I don't get it
> seriously who want's to spend 100 Bucks.
Seems to me, that their real problem is the insistence on zero size packaging of everything. AFAIK Honda actually made a slight increase to the footprint of their engine dimensions after splitting with them. This would tie neatly into the way the Japanese work with partners, in that they rarely give you a flat refusal of requests, even if they do not agree with them. This would also tie into remarks from Toro Rosso on how they handle the collaboration with Honda, namely in the sense that they are fine with giving them a relaxed leash in terms of development and pursuit of ideas.
Essentially McLaren seem adamant on out-Chapmanning everybody on the grid, which traditonally hasn't been a bad idea if you could stay afloat financially until you discovered more performance that the rest of the grid. IMHO, the problem is that the game has changed. It used to be so, that all you lost was points due to failures. Now, with limited spare parts and testing time, you lose track time. And this is BAD in a setting where time on track is at a premium and cannot be replaced with anything else, including dyno, simulator. CFD and wind-tunnel time. If you are not pounding the pavement, you are not collecting data. And if you are not collecting data, you are falling behind those that are. Which means, you can be as radical as you want to be, you will still not be able to pull out of the mid-field.
It's only after we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything.
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> Mclaren is reliably unreliable
3 Full Laps> Power Shutdown
>
> Anyone getting F1 Tv in the Future? I don't get it
> seriously who want's to spend 100 Bucks
.Seems to me, that their real problem is the insistence on zero size packaging of everything. AFAIK Honda actually made a slight increase to the footprint of their engine dimensions after splitting with them. This would tie neatly into the way the Japanese work with partners, in that they rarely give you a flat refusal of requests, even if they do not agree with them. This would also tie into remarks from Toro Rosso on how they handle the collaboration with Honda, namely in the sense that they are fine with giving them a relaxed leash in terms of development and pursuit of ideas.
Essentially McLaren seem adamant on out-Chapmanning everybody on the grid, which traditonally hasn't been a bad idea if you could stay afloat financially until you discovered more performance that the rest of the grid. IMHO, the problem is that the game has changed. It used to be so, that all you lost was points due to failures. Now, with limited spare parts and testing time, you lose track time. And this is BAD in a setting where time on track is at a premium and cannot be replaced with anything else, including dyno, simulator. CFD and wind-tunnel time. If you are not pounding the pavement, you are not collecting data. And if you are not collecting data, you are falling behind those that are. Which means, you can be as radical as you want to be, you will still not be able to pull out of the mid-field.
It's only after we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything.
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