Silly directors, silly money

Posted by Guimengo 
Silly directors, silly money
Date: November 26, 2006 08:51AM
Posted by: Guimengo
So Internazionale seems to be ready to offer 100 million Euros for Messi...
Real Madrid 140 million Euros for Kaká...


that's just ridiculous.
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 02, 2006 01:15PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
Its the same for wages.

Ashley Cole (England left back, went to chelsea from arsenal) went to chelsea because Arsene Wenger wouldn't give him an extra £5000 a week on his contract - he was on £55,000 a week, and wanted 60k because "his agent's fees are 5k, so I want 55k after the fees' - so he went to chelsea all because hee was so greedy.

As a mate of mine said, someone should sit him down with an average Joe, and get the guy to show him how he manages on £20,000 a year! Can't he afford the 5k?! So now he's known as Ca$hley Cole.

Same with Ballack - went to Chelsea in the summer. A journalist asked him how he found living in london - he said it was too expensive to buy, so they were renting. HE GETS 100k A WEEK! How do you think the rest of us manage?

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Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 03, 2006 01:16PM
Posted by: Nickv
This proofs my thought: Footballers are whining twats.
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 04, 2006 12:19AM
Posted by: Guimengo
It is a sad reality but the whole football money bubble won't last too long. There has to be a collapse coming soon, either the leagues will have 1-2 dominating teams and a bunch of others struggling with bankrupcy and relegation perenially or you'll see a few nations not being able to support their players anymore (in Brazil you can't find a good, known player who's been around since he was 18 or so past his 20s because he's gone to some country in Europe, even the most obscure ones!).

I am pretty sure most players don't do much on the charity side either. Ronaldo is a superb example. He spends loads of money on Unicef programs, he donates money to several projects in poor cities and where he came from. And he also funded the Brazil A1 GP team ;)
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 06, 2006 02:48AM
Posted by: Covfan
I think teams should bid £50m for Kevin Kyle!
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 10, 2006 12:27PM
Posted by: LS.
Guimengo Wrote:
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> It is a sad reality but the whole football money
> bubble won't last too long. There has to be a
> collapse coming soon,



Might not be quite as soon as you predict, certainly not in our Premiership anyways.

Seems the trend is now to sell the clubs to big consortiums to release the funds to build bigger and better squads

Manchester United with the Glazer family

Chelsea with Abromovich

Aston Villa with Randy Lerner ( always sounds like a newcomer to the porno industry when i hear his name :p )

And now a proposed buy out of Liverpool by Sheik Mohammed.


All this new money being pumped into the Premiership will only help push the costs up by greedy players and their agents imho




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Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 10, 2006 01:05PM
Posted by: matt3454
I cant wait till the 'big' teams break away and form a euro elite. Get the forgein twats like Mourinho and Wenger out this country.

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Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 10, 2006 10:40PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
Um, what? When there are two british managers who are as good as Mourinho and particularly Wenger, they can move on, but since 90% of the premiership's eglish managers have proven themselves inept, I'm not bothered about foreign managers.


Quite how anyone can see Wenger's reign at arsenal as negative for the premiership I don't know. He's been brilliant, a real legend.

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Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 11, 2006 07:10AM
Posted by: Guimengo
LS, some teams go themselves some quite sweet deals (for example, Real Madrid got 1 billion Euros from selling broadcasting rights! :-o), the EPL was well known for it as it had its rights sold for a massively huge amount of money years ago and it was distributed among the teams. But check the Scottish league, Celtic and Rangers are the only 2 teams and Rangers have been lackluster... now we see many teams that were big not long ago struggling to keep consistancy.

Brazil has suffered this terribly, it managed to keep players like Zico in the 80s, now even a youngster who's nothing more than an average player leaves soon. I have to say, the biggest fault of all this in most sports is to blame on agents. How often we hear a player say "It wouldn't be a bad move but I am just leaving it to my agent to set the deals" as in 'I'll have my agent suck as much money as possible and also lie about foreign interest and money blablabla'
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 11, 2006 07:15PM
Posted by: -qwerty-
The scottish league is a bit closer now, Hearts (Edinburgh) are doing well. Or, at least they were. A billionaire bought them and now is sacking managers, players and anyone else he likes, bringing in a load of rubbish lithuanian players instead :s

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Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 11, 2006 09:58PM
Posted by: Guimengo
*writes letter to new boss saying he can play and can also pretend to be Lithuanian*

might be my big break ;)
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 16, 2006 09:49AM
Posted by: Nickv
Probably of your wrist again ;)
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 18, 2006 07:08PM
Posted by: Red Sam
i dont see any end to it until FIFA bring in salary caps across the game - but that will be hard to achieve!



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Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 18, 2006 07:14PM
Posted by: Guimengo
well, salary cap is interesting but you can't fully blame someone for extracting as much wealth as possible from someone willing to pay... it's like telling Schumi he can't make more than 25 million a year. It isn't a bad idea, but I don't think it works. And don't even mention team salary cap ;)
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 20, 2006 11:40AM
Posted by: matthewp
In the football league (english leagues below the premiership) they have a system where teams can only use a maximum of half it's turnover for wages.

Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 21, 2006 05:47AM
Posted by: Guimengo
That seems like a good deal to keep the lower leagues' financial structure as no matter what they won't be in debt, and then make their way to the Premiership without owing your soul to the devil ;).

You should really see how the situation in South America is... it's very sad, and you can only really grasp the magnitude of those things by being in the place. For example, a couple of years back a team (Santos or São Paulo) had won basically everything to win in the year, and still was in the negative! The prizes for winning the leagues are way too small, broadcasting rights are also underpaid and not too evenly shared (but some teams like Flamengo, which 20% of the population cheers for, bring for a much more attractive program to watch on tv). And wages aren't usually that great, São Paulo has a good structure, a good sponsor and relatively good wages all around for a Brazilian standard - with some players receiving more due to being more in evidence - but still can't manage to keep its budget balanced unless they sell players.

Internacional apparently will try to sell Alexandre Pato so they can have their budget for 2007 safely not in the red zone. (For a team like that, the budget is of some $10 million British pounds a year. For Flamengo, which is not only a footy team but also a 'club' and multisport-club, the budget has to be of around $20 million British pounds. Nike pays for some $3, Petrobras for some other $3.)
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 21, 2006 08:46AM
Posted by: Nickv
Nike pays for some $3, Petrobras for some other $3

They could give a little more than THAT ;)
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 21, 2006 11:43AM
Posted by: LS.
Guimengo Wrote:
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> the budget has to be of around $20 million British
> pounds.


That would be £20 million pounds then ;-)

Could have saved yourself the extra typing ;)




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Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 21, 2006 08:42PM
Posted by: Guimengo
I don't have the fancy L ;)

Sterlin pounds!
Re: Silly directors, silly money
Date: December 27, 2006 03:53PM
Posted by: NeilPearson
Silly directors, silly money, silly game


you forgot that last part gui ;)

hehe

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