Then it must be true.
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> McManaman got plenty of chances at Real, he'd play every game many
> times the whole match.
Wow, busy man! Not only did he play every game many times, but he managed to do it ALL in one match!
No wonder he used to get knackered so easily.
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> McManaman got plenty of chances at Real, he'd play every game many
> times the whole match.
Wow, busy man! Not only did he play every game many times, but he managed to do it ALL in one match!
No wonder he used to get knackered so easily.Guimengo Wrote:
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> McManaman got plenty of chances at Real, he'd play every game many
> times the whole match.
>
>
> Sávio new website coming soon!
> Video of Sávio's goals at Zaragoza
That's a load of crap. He was left out of the team an awful lot.
H E L L O
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> McManaman got plenty of chances at Real, he'd play every game many
> times the whole match.
>
>
> Sávio new website coming soon!
> Video of Sávio's goals at Zaragoza
That's a load of crap. He was left out of the team an awful lot.
H E L L O got this email with attached pics from one of my Trinidad & Tobagoan friends on my course:
** THE HAND OF CROUCH **
How can anyone with eyes not see that this is a clear foul?
YOU SIMPLY CANNOT HOLD ON TO A PLAYER'S HAIR AND TURN HIM AROUND AND IT NOT BE CALLED A FOUL!!!!
In 1986 Maradona fisted in the ball, that was called 'The Hand of God'.
Today we have 'The Hand of Crouch'.
The only bit of hair on the defender's head that is facing that direction is the hair in Couch's hand!
Come on! What is Crounch doing? A hairdressing course on the football field? He is tugging at the defender's hair and this goal should NOT have been allowed!
What more evidence do you need? You cannot do that to a player and not be penalised!
Don't tell me the ref did not see. He has assistant refs who spot when a ball goes over the line way on the next side of the field! This is all about the 'big guns' finding their way to the next rounds plain and simple.
I have taken the time to ZOOM in since some people clearly have 2" monitors.
In some parts of the world this is called CHEATING ... in others, professional play.
How much you want to wager that if a T&T player had done this they would have been SENT OFF IMMEDIATELY.
Ridiculous!
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while i think it's mainly sour grapes from my friends and probably other T&T people , why was it not picked up?
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
** THE HAND OF CROUCH **
How can anyone with eyes not see that this is a clear foul?
YOU SIMPLY CANNOT HOLD ON TO A PLAYER'S HAIR AND TURN HIM AROUND AND IT NOT BE CALLED A FOUL!!!!
In 1986 Maradona fisted in the ball, that was called 'The Hand of God'.
Today we have 'The Hand of Crouch'.
The only bit of hair on the defender's head that is facing that direction is the hair in Couch's hand!
Come on! What is Crounch doing? A hairdressing course on the football field? He is tugging at the defender's hair and this goal should NOT have been allowed!
What more evidence do you need? You cannot do that to a player and not be penalised!
Don't tell me the ref did not see. He has assistant refs who spot when a ball goes over the line way on the next side of the field! This is all about the 'big guns' finding their way to the next rounds plain and simple.
I have taken the time to ZOOM in since some people clearly have 2" monitors.
In some parts of the world this is called CHEATING ... in others, professional play.
How much you want to wager that if a T&T player had done this they would have been SENT OFF IMMEDIATELY.
Ridiculous!
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while i think it's mainly sour grapes from my friends and probably other T&T people , why was it not picked up?
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
why has the T & T defender got his arms up in the air if not to impede crouch jumping for the ball?
On another day that could have been seen as a foul
If anythings its a 50/50
I take your friend has'nt mentioned all the over the top tacking and fouls commited by Trinidad and Tobago during their World cup campaign?
Maradonna used his hand to change the direction of the ball to score the goal, to compare that to a 50/50 challenge in the box that was a header is ridiculos
The defender had his hands over crouch before his head made contact with ball, if anything Crouch did well to score under the circumstances
A bit harsh to say that crouch delibrately target the players hair, but i can see from the pics that he hold of it, but time and time again we see shirt pulling in the box, so its not really that different in that respect.
I wouldnt say it was a delibrate act as crouch isnt that sort of player
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On another day that could have been seen as a foul
If anythings its a 50/50
I take your friend has'nt mentioned all the over the top tacking and fouls commited by Trinidad and Tobago during their World cup campaign?
Maradonna used his hand to change the direction of the ball to score the goal, to compare that to a 50/50 challenge in the box that was a header is ridiculos
The defender had his hands over crouch before his head made contact with ball, if anything Crouch did well to score under the circumstances
A bit harsh to say that crouch delibrately target the players hair, but i can see from the pics that he hold of it, but time and time again we see shirt pulling in the box, so its not really that different in that respect.
I wouldnt say it was a delibrate act as crouch isnt that sort of player
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That was a deliberate act ls - as I saw the goal in real time, I thought "he was climbing there" but on closer inspection, it was hair pulling. Thing is, it wasn't really needed - crouch is like 10000 times taller than the guy.
Funny how the commentators and everyone failed to mention it and failed to talk about stern john's marginally offside goal :S They did mention the hair pulling once on bbc highlights (the live match was on itv, who are the most biased of any commentary I have found). Thing is though, referees rarely give stuff for climbing etc, so it was to be expected. Cheating though, still.
What pisses me off about these world cup referees is how they get all pissy about perfectly fine slide tackles - even ones from the front that get the ball - serbia and montengro even had one sent off for one! Looking at it, I would have probly just given a foul and a warning, since his studs were a bit up but it wasnt intentional and he was going for and got the ball, not the player at all. Then, someone does a flying kick to the face of figo and gets away with it completely - should have been straight red but they don't even get a card. World cup fifa referee guidlines are a load of bollocks.
H E L L O
Funny how the commentators and everyone failed to mention it and failed to talk about stern john's marginally offside goal :S They did mention the hair pulling once on bbc highlights (the live match was on itv, who are the most biased of any commentary I have found). Thing is though, referees rarely give stuff for climbing etc, so it was to be expected. Cheating though, still.
What pisses me off about these world cup referees is how they get all pissy about perfectly fine slide tackles - even ones from the front that get the ball - serbia and montengro even had one sent off for one! Looking at it, I would have probly just given a foul and a warning, since his studs were a bit up but it wasnt intentional and he was going for and got the ball, not the player at all. Then, someone does a flying kick to the face of figo and gets away with it completely - should have been straight red but they don't even get a card. World cup fifa referee guidlines are a load of bollocks.
H E L L O look at this: [&search=peter%20crouch%20trinidad]
i'm amazed the defender whose hair was pulled didn't protest.
and some robot dancing by FHM women: [&search=peter%20crouch%20trinidad]
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
i'm amazed the defender whose hair was pulled didn't protest.
and some robot dancing by FHM women: [&search=peter%20crouch%20trinidad]
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
He is just a @#$%&, if you play like that you dont derserve to play!! Btw he cant play football. his legs are from pinocio 
Magic Senna
@ LS, would you think the same way if it hapened in reverse, if one of the T&T players had pulled Rio Ferdinands hair and scored, that it was fair and it was in fact Rio commiting the foul by raising his arm?
i bet the tabloids would have cried "cheat" and had a massive campaign about it.
i don't care to be honest, just interested in the different views on this incident.
i don't agree with the line in the email i received saying that it was overlooked as a way of getting the "big guns" through to the next stage, i think that's bollox.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
i bet the tabloids would have cried "cheat" and had a massive campaign about it.
i don't care to be honest, just interested in the different views on this incident.
i don't agree with the line in the email i received saying that it was overlooked as a way of getting the "big guns" through to the next stage, i think that's bollox.
RIP Jules, never to be forgotten. #KeepFightingMichael
Probably cos altho he could be snapped like a twig, he is pretty tall which can be quite intimidating :P
Nah crap excuse, continue the crouch bashing, please
Nah crap excuse, continue the crouch bashing, please
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> @ LS, would you think the same way if it hapened in reverse, if one of
> the T&T players had pulled Rio Ferdinands hair and scored, that it
> was fair and it was in fact Rio commiting the foul by raising his
> arm?
>
> i bet the tabloids would have cried "cheat" and had a massive campaign
> about it.
If you watch that video, look at peter crouch's head movement, he is tracking the flight of the ball ( had he not then he wouldnt have been able to connect with it at the right time to head it in the direction of the goal, what he doesnt do is look look down to see where the guys dreadlocked pony tail is which suggests he didnt intentionally appear to grab it.
Whats most likely in those situations is for a player to grab some of the oppenents shirt to help him jump up in the air ( it happens quite regulary, if not that then a player usually uses his elbows to aid him jumping ( shearer used to do it quite alot, sometimes you'd foul a player & sometimes not)
However after carefully examining that video footage again, the evidence is pretty damning against Crouch and that goal should'nt have been given.
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> @ LS, would you think the same way if it hapened in reverse, if one of
> the T&T players had pulled Rio Ferdinands hair and scored, that it
> was fair and it was in fact Rio commiting the foul by raising his
> arm?
>
> i bet the tabloids would have cried "cheat" and had a massive campaign
> about it.
If you watch that video, look at peter crouch's head movement, he is tracking the flight of the ball ( had he not then he wouldnt have been able to connect with it at the right time to head it in the direction of the goal, what he doesnt do is look look down to see where the guys dreadlocked pony tail is which suggests he didnt intentionally appear to grab it.
Whats most likely in those situations is for a player to grab some of the oppenents shirt to help him jump up in the air ( it happens quite regulary, if not that then a player usually uses his elbows to aid him jumping ( shearer used to do it quite alot, sometimes you'd foul a player & sometimes not)
However after carefully examining that video footage again, the evidence is pretty damning against Crouch and that goal should'nt have been given.
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So maybe England would't have won :P
Magic Senna
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> Sávio new website coming soon!
> Video of Sávio's goals at Zaragoza
Not neccesarily, England went a goal down against Germany in 2002 after 6 minutes and went on to win 5-1
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> yeah, a goal opens up the other team
>
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> Sávio new website coming soon!
> Video of Sávio's goals at Zaragoza
Not neccesarily, England went a goal down against Germany in 2002 after 6 minutes and went on to win 5-1
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Yeah, but we also went 1-0 down to San Marino in a few years earlier, and won 7-1, so that fact doesn't really stand 
Spain went 1-0 down yesterday, and never changed approach until around the hour mark.
Different teams react in different ways. There's many goals have stood that shouldn't, and many more that have been wrongly disallowed. If you've tried reffing a match, you'll know it's stunningly difficult. I had no idea how hard it was until a few years back... I know these guys are supposed to be professionals, but it doesn't matter how good you are - sometimes you miss things.
Spain went 1-0 down yesterday, and never changed approach until around the hour mark.
Different teams react in different ways. There's many goals have stood that shouldn't, and many more that have been wrongly disallowed. If you've tried reffing a match, you'll know it's stunningly difficult. I had no idea how hard it was until a few years back... I know these guys are supposed to be professionals, but it doesn't matter how good you are - sometimes you miss things.
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