24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008

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24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 01, 2008 07:28PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Sarrazin tops testing today - Times

Marc Gene broke his toe in a massive accident.


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Edit: Pug say he didn't break his toe. Fair enough.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2008 07:42PM by DaveEllis.
Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 01, 2008 07:52PM
Posted by: zeppelin101
Jeez how did that happen it just took off on the exit of the corner
Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 01, 2008 07:53PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Modern LMPs are getting too fast and when they go sideways they have a tendancy of taking off. He spun in a very fast section (Porsche curves) and that was the result.

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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 01, 2008 08:07PM
Posted by: gav
Just me, or did the way he went into that wall remind anyone of Greg Moore's horrible, horrible one at Fontana? Obviously a different angle (looks like Gene rode along it a little) and a lot slower, but the way it went in at around 45-50 degrees inverted.... ouch.
Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 01, 2008 08:25PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
yeah, same. Lucky it was a roofed car.

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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 01, 2008 08:38PM
Posted by: turkey_machine
LMP cars shouldn't be doing that (taking off) when they crash. They've gotta do something to sort it for next year. Last thing we need is a serious injury because the ACF and manufacturers are getting a lil complacent about safety.



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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 02, 2008 03:18PM
Posted by: Shinnbob
You can see him spinning in the corner before, problem with the aero on these cars is when they do get sideways there is nothing forcing the car down, so up they go

Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 03, 2008 12:09AM
Posted by: Red Sam
Extraction from those cars is a little hard, don't you think?



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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 03, 2008 12:36AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Not really as the entire door is detachable, leaving an easily large enough area if they need to get him out fast.

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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 03, 2008 08:11PM
Posted by: Red Sam
ah, fair enough.



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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 03, 2008 10:11PM
Posted by: Peat
maybe they could have a vent system like nascar? Would take some engineering so that they don't suddenly lose ground effect randomly though......



Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 04, 2008 02:44AM
Posted by: turkey_machine
The problem with LMP cars over the last 20 or so years is that the floor plan is far too big, it's too light at the front, the car's too wide and too long, and as a consequence generates obscene amounts of downforce. They could restrict the width, but that'd lessen the crash impact zones in the event of a big one. Stepped floors and broken floor plans would lessen the lifting side of things.



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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 04, 2008 08:31AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Date: June 03, 2008 08:11PM
Posted by: Peat (IP Logged)

maybe they could have a vent system like nascar? Would take some engineering so that they don't suddenly lose ground effect randomly though......


NASCAR Stock Csrs do not have a flat floor and therefore don't need this system. The roof flaps are simply to stop the car blowing over from the sheer speeds combined with the flat rear deck area, where the fuel tank is housed.

Roof flaps for LMPs may not be as effective given they take off much faster.

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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 06, 2008 06:29PM
Posted by: Mitsuro Sano
It's so weird ! In Monza 1000 km, 3 LMPS took off too! One in practice and 2 in the race. The Ortelli's one was the most terrific !
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&feature=related]Audi's and Ortelli's crash[/URL]
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&feature=related]Creations' qualify crash[/URL]

In this category of racing cars, we had never seen something like that recently, right?



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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 06, 2008 07:20PM
Posted by: dkpioe
is it gonna be worse then IRL? youd think a european based series would have less of this then an american based series.
Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 06, 2008 08:31PM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
this has nothing to do with where its based, irl's only take off when they hit another at high speed, wich you cant stop. LMP cars take off when driving trough grass or spinning or what ever.

Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 07, 2008 06:42AM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Iceman-Kimi Wrote:
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> this has nothing to do with where its based, irl's
> only take off when they hit another at high speed,
> wich you cant stop. LMP cars take off when driving
> trough grass or spinning or what ever.

Both take off due to aerodynamic forces acting on the car in a spin. There is no difference.

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Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 07, 2008 10:31AM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
Really? Sorry for that then, I only saw them fly once they hit another car.

Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 07, 2008 03:38PM
Posted by: msater
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig crash. can sorta see why gene doesnt drive f1 cars cant you
Re: 24 Hour Of Le Mans 2008
Date: June 07, 2008 04:47PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Because Le Mans is a hell of a lot more exciting?

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