GM envisions driverless cars on horizon

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GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 07, 2008 02:17PM
Posted by: razgriz
Cars that drive themselves — even parking at their destination — could be ready for sale within a decade, General Motors Corp. executives say.

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GM, parts suppliers, university engineers and other automakers all are working on vehicles that could revolutionize short- and long-distance travel. And Tuesday at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner will devote part of his speech to the driverless vehicles.

"This is not science fiction," Larry Burns, GM's vice president for research and development, said in a recent interview.

The most significant obstacles facing the vehicles could be human rather than technical: government regulation, liability laws, privacy concerns and people's passion for the automobile and the control it gives them.

Much of the technology already exists for vehicles to take the wheel: radar-based cruise control, motion sensors, lane-change warning devices, electronic stability control and satellite-based digital mapping. And automated vehicles could dramatically improve life on the road, reducing crashes and congestion.

If people are interested.

"Now the question is what does society want to do with it?" Burns said. "You're looking at these issues of congestion, safety, energy and emissions. Technically there should be no reason why we can't transfer to a totally different world."

GM plans to use an inexpensive computer chip and an antenna to link vehicles equipped with driverless technologies. The first use likely would be on highways; people would have the option to choose a driverless mode while they still would control the vehicle on local streets, Burns said.

He said the company plans to test driverless car technology by 2015 and have cars on the road around 2018.

Sebastian Thrun, co-leader of the Stanford University team that finished second among six teams completing a 60-mile Pentagon-sponsored race of driverless cars in November, said GM's goal is technically attainable. But he said he wasn't confident cars would appear in showrooms within a decade.

"There's some very fundamental, basic regulations in the way of that vision in many countries," said Thrun, a professor of computer science and electrical engineering.

The Defense Department contest, which initially involved 35 teams, showed the technology isn't ready for prime time. One team was eliminated after its vehicle nearly charged into a building, while another vehicle mysteriously pulled into a house's carport and parked itself.

Thrun said a key benefit of the technology eventually will be safer roads and reducing the roughly 42,000 U.S. traffic deaths that occur annually — 95 percent of which he said are caused by human mistakes.

"We might be able to cut those numbers down by a factor of 50 percent," Thrun said. "Just imagine all the funerals that won't take place."

Other challenges include updating vehicle codes and figuring out who would be liable in a crash and how to cope with blown tires or obstacles in the road. But the systems could be developed to tell motorists about road conditions, warn of crashes or stopped vehicles ahead and prevent collisions in intersections.

Later versions of driverless technology could reduce jams by directing vehicles to space themselves close together, almost as if they were cars in a train, and maximize the use of space on a freeway, he said.

"It will really change society, very much like the transition from a horse to a car," Thrun said.

The U.S. government has pushed technology to help drivers avoid crashes, most notably electronic stability controls that help prevent rollovers. The systems are required on new passenger vehicles starting with the 2012 model year.

Vehicle-to-vehicle communication and technology allowing cars to talk with highway systems could come next.

Still in debate are how to address drivers' privacy, whether current vehicles can be retrofitted and how many vehicles would be need the systems to develop an effective network.

"Where it shakes out remains to be seen but there is no question we see a lot of potential there," said Rae Tyson, a spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration

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well i would agree if they will put also a manual ride that you can personally control it without any computer distturbance
Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 07, 2008 02:25PM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi
I would never give my live in hands of a machine at those speeds, every machine can fail.

Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 07, 2008 08:24PM
Posted by: turkey_machine
Especially one by GM! With any luck they'll fold before this so-called "dream" hits the road. ;)



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Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 07, 2008 08:54PM
Posted by: Fincent
Iceman-Kimi Wrote:
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> I would never give my live in hands of a machine
> at those speeds, every machine can fail.


So can humans :) (bad sight, poor judgement and plain stupidity to name a few problems). Although I agree that at the moment, I wouldn't put my life in the hands of a machine either but when the technology becomes less likely to fail than a human then I guess we let the computer take control.



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Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 08, 2008 06:11AM
Posted by: NeilPearson
turkey_machine Wrote:
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> Especially one by GM! With any luck they'll fold
> before this so-called "dream" hits the road. ;)

Yeah one of the biggest car manufacturers in the world is going to fold.

Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 08, 2008 02:56PM
Posted by: turkey_machine
If you paid ANY attention to GM in the last 5 years, you'd know that they've been losing billions of dollars because they can't sell cars to the right markets. They'll keep losing money until they fold. Simple as.



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Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 08, 2008 03:37PM
Posted by: NeilPearson
Ford has been losing money to.

Ford Australia Nearly went bankrupt.

Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 11, 2008 12:27PM
Posted by: torana_05
why did ford australia go nearly bankrupt, nearly every taxi was an au


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Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 11, 2008 05:10PM
Posted by: NeilPearson
cos the au was a piece of @#$%&, alot of issues with the car. the parent company had to pump money into ford australia.

Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 11, 2008 05:18PM
Posted by: DaveEllis
Ford has been doing fine. Ford Australia hasn't, that's different.


Date: January 07, 2008 01:25PM
Posted by: Iceman-Kimi (IP Logged)

I would never give my live in hands of a machine at those speeds, every machine can fail.


Ever flown on a plane? You know they have auto-take off, auto-pilot and auto-land now days? The Pilot does minimal work. Putting your life in the hands of a machine at 600mph.

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Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 11, 2008 05:43PM
Posted by: turkey_machine
And then having the pilot tell you that it was the plane that flew itself...



Everyone knows that million-to-one chances happen 9 times out of 10; indeed, it's a common requirement in fairy tales. If the human didn't have to overcome huge odds, what would be the point? Terry Pratchett - The Science Of Discworld

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Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 12, 2008 02:14PM
Posted by: DJSKYLINE
how long until f1 cars drive themselves......

Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 12, 2008 07:31PM
Posted by: turkey_machine
Never if the FIA had their way, coulda happened in 1995 or 1996 if electronic development wasn't halted in the end of 1993.



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Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 12, 2008 07:49PM
Posted by: DJSKYLINE
yep, i just mean how long until this technology is put into an f1 car to test it :)

bmw could try it, watch topgear? they had a 3series (i think) that drove itself round a track.

Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 12, 2008 08:01PM
Posted by: chet
Theres a little thing I heard about, I think its new, kinda like this BMW.

It's called Autopilot and I believe its on some modern planes, such as the A380. Not sure though.

edit - LOL just read Daves post :p

haha. but yeah point is this kinda of technology has been available for longgg time.






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Re: GM envisions driverless cars on horizon
Date: January 23, 2008 12:01PM
Posted by: RonF1
Well it would be handy for a night out on the lash, no designated driver!!
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