belini 1.13?

Posted by oceansea 
belini 1.13?
Date: October 05, 2007 06:05AM
Posted by: oceansea
once and for all, how can we play belini tracks on gp3 1.13? i have seen people discussing it but to be honest never really understood what changes need to be made.

thanks for any help in advance.
christopher
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 05, 2007 06:31AM
Posted by: RafaelValenza
wanna know that too
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 05, 2007 07:27AM
Posted by: ErickVonDraxeler
As far as I know...

To make Belini's tracks run on GP3 1.13, you must reduce the track .DAT file size to a certain limit (don't remember now...) and it will run... Previous Sakhir and Shanghai worked for GP3 1.13 because their .DATs were smaller than the limit...

But Belini make his tracks with all sections with size 1 (I mean lots of tiny pieces of track, noticeable for a sideline not being 100% straight...) and lots of track commands (which means pit building, sceneries, etc...)

To delete some sectors (and make a single one with the size of those sectors) could be made, if the commands weren't attached to each specific sector... As I said, "as far as I know"...

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Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 05, 2007 09:09AM
Posted by: drafi5
The dat.file limit is 137 kB for 113, most belini tracks are bigger,
so you MUST reduce the dat.file to this limit, I delete some
"Internal Objects Definitions" in TrackEditor and remove all
far sights commands too.

Happy racing from Germany !!!

Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 05, 2007 06:21PM
Posted by: abrakain
hi drafi
i'm not very used with track editor
first of all, what track editor do you mean?
paul hoad's or others?

then, please can you publish a little guide with steps and images on what to do about it?

thanks a lot, you site is great
Gennaro D'auria
f1gp3wc:
www.freewebs.com/f1gp3wc
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 05, 2007 07:15PM
Posted by: drafi5
I described it several times, but once again:
use Paul Hoad TrackEditor 2.2.0.804 to open the dat.file,
go to „Internal Objects Definitions“, remove the object
definitions, starting with the last one, until the dat size
is under 137 kB, save the dat.file from time to time and
look for the size. Maybe someone found a better way,
but this way worked for me, I heard about in the old GP2
trackediting forum (dinga ??) and tried it out.
The problem of this way are many graphical bugs, so the
much better way is to run GP3 2000 too.

Happy racing from Germany !!!

Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 06, 2007 06:47PM
Posted by: holemad
This is the way I do it :
open the DAT with paul hoad's trackeditor.
remove all trackwide changes via the menu 'remove'.
sometimes this is already enough (max tracksize = 140.000 bytes).
if not I remove all bankings by hand (takes some time!)
In this way I could get these tracks to run:
A1-ring,Bahrain,Barcelona,brazil,buenos aires,hungaroring,
magny cours,montreal,nurburgring,sepang,shanghai,suzuka

For some tracks I need to patch with 3.91.


greetz
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 06, 2007 07:14PM
Posted by: belini
holemad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is the way I do it :
> open the DAT with paul hoad's trackeditor.
> remove all trackwide changes via the menu
> 'remove'.
> sometimes this is already enough (max tracksize =
> 140.000 bytes).
> if not I remove all bankings by hand (takes some
> time!)
> In this way I could get these tracks to run:
> A1-ring,Bahrain,Barcelona,brazil,buenos
> aires,hungaroring,
> magny
> cours,montreal,nurburgring,sepang,shanghai,suzuka
>
> For some tracks I need to patch with 3.91.
>
>
> greetz

I'm suprised they run removing track width commands:) be safer to
remove banking commands

you only need to replace the magic data for:
buenos aires
hungaroring 98-2001
sepang 2000


pk



Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 06, 2007 09:58PM
Posted by: holemad
thanks for the info , Paul.
'removing track width' deletes 2 commands each sector,
and helps me getting easier the size limit.
After that, I set the bankings just were needed.

By the way : you made some great stuff!

what about 1.13 versions for monza,spa,silverstone,nurburgring new layout,
hockenheim,imola,indy,melbourne,monaco

any suggestions or tricks?
It's a pitty they don't work ..:(
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 06, 2007 10:05PM
Posted by: drafi5
But for me all 2007 tracks work with 1.13.

Happy racing from Germany !!!

Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 07, 2007 08:08PM
Posted by: X_Acto
The new Valencia track dosen't work in Gp3 1.13, for example...

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Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 07, 2007 08:55PM
Posted by: drafi5
No problems here, Paulo.

Happy racing from Germany !!!

Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 08, 2007 03:28AM
Posted by: Made in Brazil
here too, i installed new valencia track without remove anything.

Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 08, 2007 05:51AM
Posted by: oceansea
Okay. I got Valencia to work in slot 2. It’s a much nicer to drive than another version of the circuit I’ve tried.

I have been trying to download the track editor from the download page here but I keep getting error messages when I try to open the folder. Is there another place to download it from? Could someone mail it to me?

Thanks for all the interest and help.
christopher
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 11, 2007 02:08PM
Posted by: fcremades
where i can download TrackEditor 2.2.0.804?????
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 11, 2007 04:26PM
Posted by: drafi5
In the new download section > GP3 Editors/Utilities

Happy racing from Germany !!!

Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 11, 2007 04:26PM
Posted by: drafi5
In the new download section > GP3 Editors/Utilities

Happy racing from Germany !!!

P.S. double post, had some troubles with my dial-up.





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2007 04:52PM by drafi5.
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 23, 2007 08:53AM
Posted by: peppekk
Hi,
have a problem.
I reworked Spa 2007 by Belini to be under 137kB. It's ok - it's loading in GP3, but after I started the practice I notice that CC cars are runing out of fuel in the middle of third lap.
I have tried to insert some magic data but than the file had became corrupted (I can not load it anymore).
Anyone knows the solutions on how to change fuel consumption for CC cars?
Pep
Re: belini 1.13?
Date: October 23, 2007 09:17AM
Posted by: drafi5
@ peppekk:
Please check your mail.

Happy racing from Germany !!!

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