32nd track: montreal 91

montreal track used in 88-91 races with casino kink
uploaded both to racesimcentral forum and www.freewebs.com/gp3tracks

Thx, you're the man!

BTW - Luis Perez Sala crashed heavily down at the Kink in 1989...

No magic data?

How would I be able to insert md into the track for GP 1.13? I'm not too big of a fan of the "specific slot" trick.

First a thank you very much for all those beautifull tracks.

After the latest track (montreal91) would't it be a small step to change this into the montreal 94-95 versions? they had a provisional chicane before the casino kink.

would't it be a small step to change this into the montreal 94-95 versions? they had a provisional chicane before the casino kink.

That chicane was ridiculous!



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I agree with that. However they did put that chicane there and if you want to drive those seasons wouldn't you like to be as close to reality as possible?

Yes, but that was a "tyre chicane" not a original chicane.



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Well, someone could modifiy the CCline and add an object (tyre wall) in the middle of the track.

Roberto Scadura did that on his Big City tracks.



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Did your birth certificate come with an apology letter from Durex?

In 1994 they took "eau rouge" out of the spatrack all together just by putting a chicane in the middle. Again ridiculous but it was there.

I don't think that someone should "lost" some time doing those "ridiculous" layouts...



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big city has tyres in the middle of track but I can't collide with them, I just drive through the tyres(maybe you can?) the only thing you can collide with is the guard rail. so to make a tyre chicane I have to make the track really narrow with no distance between the track's edge and the rail. then give the rail a tyre texture

For some reason, this track just crashes GP3 for me. No idea why though.

"I don't think that someone should "lost" some time doing those "ridiculous" layouts..."

I suppose that it's really a pity that people "wasted" their time making things like that "ridiculous" new Hockenheimring and Nurburgring.

Even if it's not possible to put a tyre chicane on a track, wouldn't just the actual real layout, with another "normal" chicane instead, be preferable in order to have a proper 1994 track?

P.S. abcdefg's Montreal works fine with no problems in GP3 for me.

I made a tyre chicane looking thingy at bacelona. very tight very narrow surrounded by walls. but I still can cutting the chicane by driving through the walls. even black flags can't detect such cheating. the wall in the chicane can't block cars but once leaving the chicane the wall can block cars again.
if all are gentleman racers or just race with AIs this won't be a problem. if there're cheaters on the server this would be annoying.

about montreal 94: do you like a tyre chicane that can't be enforced or a proposed permanent chicane?

montreal 94 proposal:
[www.racingcircuits.net]

@Hova
get any montreal that has magic data. use cmagic to extract md from the track and insert it into my track



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It wasn't a tire chicane I believe. they made it out of kerbs kind of like the ones they use in monaco. They're attached to the tarmac so they can be removed I guess. (I just looked it up on the Fia1995 tape). So that would qualify it as a permanent chicane I think.

In barcelona however they used a provisional tirechicane in 1994 before the chicane on the backstraight. In 1995 they changed it into the track it was untill last year. Somebody made the barcelona91-93 track I recall.

a better tyre chicane is made on bacelona, this time the wall on the left can block cars, one part of the wall on the right together with black flags can block "more than average" skilled chicane-cutters.
I downloaded some monza 72-74 video clips to study the shape of the "central island" on the start/finish, however the footage is crap and I can't see it clearly. it also seems that they don't take the chicane after start.

@ JackiMatra,

I just think that tyre chicanes are stupid.

Maybe that's why they didn't stay there in the next years...



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The chicanes were only put there after the Senna-ratzenberger-wendlinger crashes at the beginning of 1994. I guess they didn't want any more incidents that year. The next year Spa went back to normal and they changed barcelona. montreal stayed in 1995 as it was in 1994 (with chicane). The year after that (1996) they took out the casinokink and the chicane.

Yes, in 1994 F1 had become a little paranoid with safety (those tyre chicanes are one of the exemples...)

But we all know that F1 were always a dangerous sport...



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This is the chicane for the 2995 GP




Spa 1994 with the infamous chicant at Eau Rouge





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Did your birth certificate come with an apology letter from Durex?