GP3 or GP3-2000

Posted by hoppus 
GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 01, 2003 01:44PM
Posted by: hoppus
For you, what's the best gp3? the original gp3 or the gp3 2000 season? and why?
Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 01, 2003 03:20PM
Posted by: IanWackett
GP3 because of the number of carsets available.

Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 01, 2003 06:14PM
Posted by: JackiMatra
GP3 Pros:
1.GP3 has many many more carsets and carshapes.
2.GP3 is much easier to edit and to install many addons to.
3.There is an addon that allows you to have replays of up to two hours in duration in GP3, while GP3-2000 only allows you to have replays no longer than ninety minutes, which is not enough to even record full length dry races at slower circuits such as Monte Carlo or the Hungaroringm, and isn't enough to allow you to record full length wet races at most any circuits.
4.Most all original and addon GP3-2000 tracks can be used in GP3. (In fact, out of over 200 tracks, I think that I have encountered no more than two GP3-2000 tracks that will not work in GP3, and, of those, there is a GP3 version of one of them.)
5..I prefer the GP3 menu music to the GP3-2000 menu music.

GP3-2000 Pros:
1.GP3-2000 has very slightly better AI.
2.GP3 has better damage modelling (although GP3 damage can be adjusted to be nearly as good) and damage from collisions with debris (which GP3 does not have).
3.GP3-2000 allows the use of 2 different car liveries for each team (very usefull and realistic for CART, for example), whereas GP3 only allows the use of a different single car livery for each different team.
4.GP3-2000 has EAX sound effects such as reverberation effects when going through a tunnel. However, this reverberation effect also occurs when going under a track bridge or banner, which I find completely unrealistic, and , therefore, choose to turn this effect off.
5.GP3-2000 allows extremely slighthly more detailed tracks, however, practically speaking, there is usually no difference at all between most all GP3 and GP3-2000 addon tracks in terms of graphical details.
6.GP3-2000 allows different AI car setups in qualifying and races, which means that it is possible to more accurately replicate real-world qualifying and race laptimes in GP3-2000 than it is in GP3. As this takes quite a bit of time and effort, it is probably fair to say that most GP3-2000 performance files (which are usually produced very soon after a real-world race) do not take full advantage of this possiblity.
7.GP3-2000 uses different performance files for each track, while GP3 uses one single performance file for an entire season. This means that you can fairly accurately recreate the performances of all of the AI cars and drivers in each individual race in GP3-2000, which you cannot do in GP3. However, this means that it takes as many more times as there are races in a season to make a season's performance file for GP3-2000 as it does for GP3, which is the reason that so few seasons' performance files have been made for GP3-2000 and not enough work as been done testing even those, as can be found from either testing them yourself or from reading the many forum complaints about unrealistic performances and results in GP3-2000.

Summary:
If you are interested in just the most recent seasons since the year 2000, then GP3-2000 would probably be the best choice. If you are interested in any other motor racing seasons, such as Formula One, F 3000, Caterham, etc., before 2001, then GP3 would be far the better choice.



Post Edited (09-04-03 13:28)
Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 01, 2003 08:18PM
Posted by: vbc
wow!!! what a great explanation
thanks a lot JackiMatra



Thanks GP3Hotlaps
Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 12:19AM
Posted by: Echo1
Is it worth picking up GP3-2000, though? As it only costs about a fiver.
Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 02:47AM
Posted by: Lanky-Lad
See :P

It's just you variante!






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Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 02:49AM
Posted by: Lanky-Lad
BTW: I got gp3 2000 for £3.






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Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 03:38AM
Posted by: Kimi Räikkönen
I bought GP3 and GP3 2000 in an 'all in one' pack for £15.



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Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 03:40AM
Posted by: Kimi Räikkönen
Get GP3 2000. More circuits. ( GP3 = 16, GP3 2000 = 17 )

Trust me, get GP3 2000, but remember, you need GP3 as well.



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Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 01:26PM
Posted by: hoppus
Matra, very good explanation =P

i made tis question just to observe your reaction about the 2 gp3, cuz there are a lot of good things that aren't in the 2 games, just in one or other (sorry if my english is bad)..
Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 03:00PM
Posted by: JackiMatra
"Get GP3 2000. More circuits."

GPxPatch and Paddock Championship Editor allow you to use as many tracks as you like and to run as long a championship as you wish, so the one extra circuit slot in GP3-2000 is totally irrelevant.

Additional GP3 Pro:
You don't need to buy any other games to play it.

GP3-2000 Con:
You need to have GP3 in order to be able to run this game as the installation of GP3-2000 requests the GP3 CD (for no good reason other than making sure that you have spent more money to buy both games instead of just the one), and occasionally periodically thereafter GP3-2000 requests that you confirm that you have the GP3 CD.
Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 05:00PM
Posted by: St.Hubbins
GP3 2000 I find far more driveable. In the original it seems often like the car is on rails and also the ability to power slide around corners is rather overaccentuated. Also the sound is far superior on GP3 2000 imo.

Btw, just bought GP4 for a measly £10 but I can't get it running at all well on my PC :(



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Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 02, 2003 11:23PM
Posted by: drafi5
If you see all the plus reasons for each game (brilliant analysed Jackie Mantra !!) the answer can only be:
GP3 and GP3-2000. I play both and have a lot of fun.
Re: GP3 or GP3-2000
Date: September 03, 2003 12:47AM
Posted by: JackiMatra
"GP3 2000 I find far more driveable. In the original it seems often like the car is on rails and also the ability to power slide around corners is rather overaccentuated. Also the sound is far superior on GP3 2000 imo."

1.The physics file parameters in GP3 and GP3-2000 seem to be identical (as you can use GP3 physics files in GP3-2000 with GPxPatch). The different behviour of the cars in the two games is apparently attributable to different numbers used in the physics and magic data. If you use the same physics data, magic track and car setup data, and tracks in both games, I strongly suspect that the cars would handle precisely the same.

2.GP3-2000 allows you to use the original GP3 sounds. As I understand it, you have to choose this option in GP3-2000 in order to be able to install and use any new addon sounds in the game, which I strongly prefer to the original GP3 and GP3-2000 sounds.



Post Edited (09-03-03 07:48)
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