A bit of a question

Posted by flojoe1097 
A bit of a question
Date: July 26, 2024 06:17PM
Posted by: flojoe1097
Is it possible to convert the Hardware Jam Files for modded tracks to Software Jam Files, and if so how can this be done? I've seen that you can potentially use GP3 Master to do that, but I don't know how to use that programme. Any help would appreciated, Cheers.
Re: A bit of a question
Date: July 28, 2024 04:13AM
Posted by: evroic
Hi,

You can convert your JAM Hardware files to Software by using "Jam Editor Version 1.6b"

Do this test

Run the program "Jam Editor.exe"
Open the desired JAM Hardware file ( File - Open )
Click on Utilities - HW-> SW Convertor
Do this for the other files in the folder

Place the files in this folder in Gp3jams
You can use the same DAT

Evandro ( Brazil )
Re: A bit of a question
Date: July 29, 2024 02:09PM
Posted by: flojoe1097
Will give it a go when I get a chance. Thanks for the advice.
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 03, 2024 01:31PM
Posted by: flojoe1097
Sorry to bother you again, where can I find a download link for Jam Editor 1.6b
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 03, 2024 08:09PM
Posted by: evroic
This is GP3 Jam Editor Version 1.6b created by James Knopp.

Uploaded here because the old original downloads links won't work anymore.

All credits and big thanks to the original author.

GP3 Jam Editor 1.6b.zip

Evandro ( Brazil )
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 09, 2024 04:03PM
Posted by: flojoe1097
Got it downloaded, but I am having some issues with it. Sometimes when I try and save a jam file, it doesn't save it. Is there a fix for that?
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 09, 2024 10:22PM
Posted by: evroic
Well, let's see if I can help you.

I would do it this way

First, choose the JAM file (hardware version) that is in the Gp3jamsh folder (for example gp3jamsh\xxx3jam\file.jam)

Second, make a copy of this file if you think it is necessary.

Third, check that it is not read/write protected

Fourth, open this file with Jam Editor and perform the conversion

Fifth, save this converted JAM file in the software version folder, which in this example will be gp3jams\xxx3jam\file.jam

Do not save it in the same folder, because the source is the files for hardware mode and now we are generating the files for the software version

Do this with all the files....

It is not necessary to change anything in the DAT.

Just tell me. Which file are you unable to convert?

Which files (tracks) are you trying to convert?

Evandro ( Brazil )
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 10, 2024 07:48AM
Posted by: pirx
..always use the option "Save as" when saving files. The normal "Save"-function is not working.

"Oiııo.
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Pilot Pirx
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/10/2024 07:50AM by pirx.
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 10, 2024 12:45PM
Posted by: flojoe1097
I do click save as, but whenever I do, it struggles to respond and then ends up not saving.
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 10, 2024 12:55PM
Posted by: flojoe1097
It's this track, 1995 Adelaide [www.grandprixgames.org]

The files I'm having issues with are the jam files in the 1995 folder, adel_pit, adel_pt, adel_scaf, adel_sign

Whenever I convert those files and save them via save as, it ends up making the programme not respond and then when it does finally respond, it doesn't save them. Kept trying again several times but nothing.
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 11, 2024 04:37AM
Posted by: evroic
Hi

It's always good to have these questions and learn a little more.

Maybe this type of problem has already been posted here on the forum but you would need to do a deep search


I believe I have found the cause of the problem but not the solution.

I tested the files you mentioned and noticed that they are "too large" to be displayed in the Jam Editor 1.6 tool and these images end up being cut off.

This is due to the Canvas Height size.

Note that these files have "adel_pit.jam = 700", "adel_pt.jam 700", "adel_scaf.jam = 768" and "adel_sign.jam = 600"


When converting from HW to SW the image is cut off and overlapped... and this causes a bug in the texture positions... which is why it does not save.

Jam files that have smaller canvas, this does not happen.


Then I asked myself. Is there a limit for Canvas?


I did more tests and realized that all images (textures) have to be inside the "Jam Convert" screen and if it is bigger the image is cut and sometimes it can be saved and other times it can't because of the Canvas size.


See the comparison between the JAM files






You can see that some even save but the file is missing the bottom part of the textures and these because of the very high CNVAS it won't even let you save

That was the conclusion I reached...

Evandro ( Brazil )
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 11, 2024 11:15AM
Posted by: pirx
(..hmm, 10 years ago I worked with the tool)

-you checked windows-compatibility of the jameditor-exe-file?
Here it runs set to WINXP-SP2 compatibility / Visual Designs deselected / and I run it with admin-rights. Sometimes a new Download of some software is always worth a try.

"Oiııo.
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Pilot Pirx
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Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 12, 2024 02:01AM
Posted by: evroic
Hi, Prix.

I'm currently using Win7 with 64 bits and I made these settings and it didn't work.

I have Win XP with 32 bits but I would need to turn on my old computer just to do this.

I'll try this during this week and also look for other alternatives to help our friend

Evandro ( Brazil )
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 21, 2024 09:29PM
Posted by: evroic
Hi, flojoe1097

I haven't forgotten about this topic....

I did a lot of searching and found this link
[www.waa63.ch]

This took me to the topic "Converting jams HW to SW"
[www.waa63.ch]

There is a link to a tutorial
[www.grandprix-x.com]

This link doesn't work, but if you use the "Wayback Machine" it will help you "rescue" lost links... so go ahead in...
[web.archive.org]

Here is the tutorial !!!

I confess that I haven't tested it and I've never seen this before.

I've also been reading some topics here on GPG where it's said that GPxPatch doesn't work in software mode

I really don't know about this because I only use hardware mode with GPxPatch.

Now it's up to you

Tell us if you've had any success so we can all learn a little more.

Best regards



Evandro ( Brazil )
Re: A bit of a question
Date: August 21, 2024 10:10PM
Posted by: evroic
Tools that are in this tutorial:

JamEditor 0.52b

GP3Jammer

Good luck



Evandro ( Brazil )
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