GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic

Posted by Rod_vs 
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 29, 2015 03:37AM
Posted by: Rod_vs
miki2000milos Wrote:
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> ART-Yugo will win the championship!
> YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
>
> also about Yugo. Yes, I am promoting
> national/Serbian manufacters.
> So it'll be ART-Yugo, using Tigar tyres and Eko
> fuel.
>
> (I mean ART are bad anyway and our manufacters are
> also mostly bad so..)


Tyres are only Bridgestone and Michelin! ;)


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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 29, 2015 11:33AM
Posted by: Rod_vs
UPDATING LIST



Teams

VTR
1- Carlos Rodriguez
10- Marcus De Bruyker

One
7- Paulo Silva
8- Rodrigo Vilela

Fox
18- Erick Von Draxeler
35- Marcus Bongardt

ART
16- Vimal Ana
69- Milos Ancevski

Blackcat
6- Eric Moinet (FRA)
13- Tim Roedl (AUT)

Tyrant
14- Greg O'Brien
TBA

Turner
TBA
TBA



Drivers

29- Mike Miller
46- Przemyslaw Kosewski
50- Michael Pedersen
82- Sean O'Neill
99- Alessandro Sanvitale


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GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 29, 2015 01:34PM
Posted by: pirx
Hi guys,

I write to all of you and not in the name of BlackcatRacing, all of my opinion is just private and a resume after being part in 3 seasons. ; maybe someone wants to give his opinion, maybe I´m absolutely wrong..


A frustrating thing for me is that there are so less position changes in championship during a season. If all wents normal for a new team and it is lucky for years it needs 10 seasons (years) or more to ever get to the top (and only if all wents perfect every single year!).
Maybe more movement in the league is more fun and a better show? Sure we all whould have more action to write about..


other things I´m thinking of:
- to many races every season (very much work for rod & this equalizes the field again)
- better Magicdata
- lesser pitstops (closer to reality)
- why a sprint race? then maybe a better tv-coverage of the full race
- please a full result-table at the end of every race, waiting 3-5 days is a downer

and leaning myself out the window:
- equal power-values for all teams

thank you
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 29, 2015 02:02PM
Posted by: miki2000milos
pirx Wrote:
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> If all wents normal for a new team and it
> is lucky for years it needs 10 seasons (years) or
> more to ever get to the top (and only if all wents
> perfect every single year!).
> Maybe more movement in the league is more fun and
> a better show? Sure we all whould have more action
> to write about..

can't agree more.




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2015 02:03PM by miki2000milos.
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 29, 2015 02:27PM
Posted by: TheVSATrooper
pirx Scritto:
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> Hi guys,
>
> I write to all of you and not in the name of
> BlackcatRacing, all of my opinion is just private
> and a resume after being part in 3 seasons. ;
> maybe someone wants to give his opinion, maybe
> I´m absolutely wrong..
>
>
> A frustrating thing for me is that there are so
> less position changes in championship during a
> season. If all wents normal for a new team and it
> is lucky for years it needs 10 seasons (years) or
> more to ever get to the top (and only if all wents
> perfect every single year!).
> Maybe more movement in the league is more fun and
> a better show? Sure we all whould have more action
> to write about..
>
>
> other things I´m thinking of:
> - to many races every season (very much work for
> rod & this equalizes the field again)
> - better Magicdata
> - lesser pitstops (closer to reality)
> - why a sprint race? then maybe a better
> tv-coverage of the full race
> - please a full result-table at the end of every
> race, waiting 3-5 days is a downer
>
> and leaning myself out the window:
> - equal power-values for all teams
>
> thank you


I agree with a lot of points (but I don't understand the MD and the first point), but this is Rodrigo's championship afterall (or at least he's the officer for the championship). He does what he has to do.

And if he has two jobs plus his webradio, the things that you suggest (if Rodrigo wants to do it) means that he has to give the seat to someone who's not as busy as Rodrigo.

And power values? It means every car has the same BHP?

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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 29, 2015 02:34PM
Posted by: miki2000milos
I was thinking not of power but of skill values.
so Carlos in this case would have a perf not of 16000,0,16000,0 but with variation, so with extra 250 variation, so 16000,250,16000,250.
and as you say backmarkers/new teams are too slow. But again I think skill values is what should be altered. So instead of just adding +5 variation and -5 skill, add +5 variation and 0 skill change, or at least lower than 5




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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 30, 2015 04:22AM
Posted by: Rod_vs
Some ideas are good... well, I return here tomorrow and put answers! =D


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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 30, 2015 09:18AM
Posted by: smoglessbutton4
Myself and PPR will be happy to cintinue into Season 10. Also, we'd be pleased to retain Sean if he wants to stay at the team :)



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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 30, 2015 01:03PM
Posted by: X_Acto
Nice to see in the Full Race an 1-2 for the Portuguese drivers. I think it's the first time...

For me, despite all, a bit disappointed with the 7th place in the championship.

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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: September 30, 2015 07:17PM
Posted by: Carlitox
I like how the numbers look! If you read it in binary, me and Marcus have numbers 1 and 2! ;)

A quick celebration followed in VTR's motorhome but no zen and sauna yet! We have a team's title to grab.



Stats: 139 Starts / 7 Wins / 9 Poles / 5 Fastest laps
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 01, 2015 04:42AM
Posted by: Rod_vs
UPDATING LIST



Teams

VTR
1- Carlos Rodriguez
10- Marcus De Bruyker

One
7- Paulo Silva
8- Rodrigo Vilela

Fox
18- Erick Von Draxeler
35- Marcus Bongardt

ART
16- Vimal Ana
69- Milos Ancevski

Blackcat
6- Eric Moinet (FRA)
13- Tim Roedl (AUT)

Tyrant
14- Greg O'Brien
TBA

Turner
TBA
TBA

PPR
21- Matthew Allington
TBA



Drivers

29- Mike Miller
46- Przemyslaw Kosewski
50- Michael Pedersen
82- Sean O'Neill
99- Alessandro Sanvitale


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GPGSL-4: testdrivers champion in Season 11!
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 01, 2015 04:44AM
Posted by: Rod_vs
About rules, I had some ideas, using the same structure of GPGSL: drivers and teams boost. But I explain better tomorrow.

Only thing that I can't change is: sprint and full race. This championship have always sprint and full races, I like it, I think Formula 1 needs to put it on some races... so, it's like a GPGSL-3 trademark"" =D


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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 01, 2015 10:44AM
Posted by: pirx
Thank you Rod for thinking about.

@miki2000milos: "I was thinking not of power but of skill values."
I support every adjustment, and yes maybe changing the system with skill values is a better way.

what about the others in the league? -happy? -no opinion? alive?
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 01, 2015 02:31PM
Posted by: TheVSATrooper
I'm more than eager to see this in action

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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 01, 2015 08:01PM
Posted by: Rod_vs
Well, some ideas. Remember (this is essential) that I don't have much free time, and someone wants to continue this series after I stop to make races.

1- Sprint and Full races: this is GPGSL-3 trademark. I don't want to modify this. Sprint races exists to make all drivers had a chance to score points and increase performance. That's the reason I put only a little difference of 5 BHP for each driver: make so closed performance by racers. For teams, if all of you agree, I can divide points on this way:

Teams that finished on 1st, 2nd or 3rd on S9: 820 BHP
4th, 5th and 6th: 818 BHP
7th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th: 816 BHP

2- Points for most-gained positions: GPGSL uses, then I can put this, too. Only for full races.

3- Boosts: for drivers and teams. I can't modify performance values DURING season, but I can make boosts, like GPGSL. But, to facilitate for all of you, each driver (and team manager) should send me all races that want to use boost before 1st race. I think on this division:

DRIVERS FOR GPGSL-3 S10
200 BHP of each order.

Drivers who scores more than 200 points on S9: 5 orders
Between 100 and 199 points: 6 orders
Less than 100 points: 7 orders

TEAMS
Limited by 5 BHP for race (team manager can require only 1 BHP for a race, for example, but never more than 5).

Teams that finished on 1st, 2nd or 3rd on S9: 20 BHP
4th, 5th and 6th: 25 BHP
7th, 8th and 9th: 30 BHP
10th and 11th: 35 BHP

Extra boost can't be required on 1st, 2nd and last three races. Members that not send me, I'll put boosts aleatory (the same for all that not send me).

4- Ability range: now, I use difference for performance points to "complete" 17000. Ex: driver X - 16985 PP and 15 AR. But I have an idea to use all historic performance to determine range. 1st driver on hall of fame gains 5 AR, 2nd, 10 AR... and so on and on. I considering only actual 22 drivers.

5- Pits stops: I put 1 it on Sprint and 2 on Full to sorted races situation sometimes, specially when rains. But, if all of you prefer, I can put none pits on Sprint and 1 pit on Full.

Now, please, agree, disagree... but comment!!;)


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2015 08:12PM by Rod_vs.
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 01, 2015 09:00PM
Posted by: miki2000milos
I can help you with something excel to edit driver performances in a similar way GPGSL does, but I think you need to ask them for permission.




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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 01, 2015 10:00PM
Posted by: Rod_vs
miki2000milos Wrote:
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> I can help you with something excel to edit driver
> performances in a similar way GPGSL does, but I
> think you need to ask them for permission.

GPGSL method for performances is extremily confused and complicated!! For now, I'd like simple things! =D

If you (and others) want to adjust GPGSL rule for performance points, it can be used on future. A big problem: before this method was repproved by GPGSL-3 members!!


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2015 10:03PM by Rod_vs.
Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 01, 2015 10:12PM
Posted by: R_Scandura
If time is a factor, why don't you give the Race Manager a try? I spent years to make a reasonable season environment and it's all automatic, just print screenshots of chars and tables. It can sort the reversed grid and sprint/feature as well.
Instead of fixed calculations can even try the update system. Give the grid a wider random shuffle from race to race with a storyline and such, improving car parts, raise from backmaker to contender, whatever...

Anyway, it all depends on your time so every asset, perf and system will be fine for me. Just bring the action :)

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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 02, 2015 04:20AM
Posted by: Rod_vs
R_Scandura Wrote:
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> If time is a factor, why don't you give the Race
> Manager a try? I spent years to make a reasonable
> season environment and it's all automatic, just
> print screenshots of chars and tables. It can sort
> the reversed grid and sprint/feature as well.
> Instead of fixed calculations can even try the
> update system. Give the grid a wider random
> shuffle from race to race with a storyline and
> such, improving car parts, raise from backmaker to
> contender, whatever...
>
> Anyway, it all depends on your time so every
> asset, perf and system will be fine for me. Just
> bring the action :)


I'm trying to use this, but I didn't get... can you help me?? =D


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Re: GPGSL-3 Season 9 - Official topic
Date: October 02, 2015 06:56AM
Posted by: miki2000milos
Race what?
Regardless, it looks fun




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