I have a BIG problem... some help would be nice
Posted by OldIsGold
in a nutshell, this is how it all started...
one day, I decided to do some sound editing with gp3 sounds on my windows xp service pack 2 32bit pc. I have done a lot of sound editing before, and this has never happened before to me. normally, the sound editor patches the file within 2 or 3 seconds of pressing the patch button. it also extracts and saves a file within a few seconds of pressing the extract button and pressing save. this time, it went crazy. i tried to save a file and it took at least a minute, and when i tried to patch a gp3sound.dat file, it crashed my pc, and stopped working all together! i didn't do anything different to what i normally do. the pc is fine, it works but every time i open gp3 sound editor, and try to patch a gp3sound file, the sounds editor crashes. and i have to force close the sounds editor.
to add to the problem, somehow, mysteriously, after that glitch, my pc has no sound what so ever. i can't listen to anything. so, i can't play gp3 with sound anymore. and, even more mysterious, the volume icon in the bottom right of the taskbar is not there any more...
and even more mysterious, i go into control panel and sounds options, it says 'no sound device', eventhough when i unplug headphones and external speakers, it should play sound through the inbuilt speakers of the laptop, like it used to before. even when i unplug everything, it still says 'no sound devices'. i tried system restore, nothing worked, i tried run>services.msc>windows audio>automatic, and i tried restarting windows audio - nothing worked.
even more mysterious, when i go into gp3 sound options in the game, everything is blanked out, so i can't increase/decrease sound from there either...
and sounds editor is still slow whenever i open it, and from that day, it still doesn't patch a gp3sound.dat file. it will save audio from a current file through extraction, but that takes way longer than it used to.
so... everything on my pc still works properly, and gp3 sound editor works partially, but i have no sound. and just to note one more thing... you know that sound that old pcs used to make when you pressed too many keys on the keyboard at once? it was kind of a buzzer sound. well, now, if the gp3 game crashes and gpx patch asks me whether i want an error report, my pc makes that horrible buzzer sound, eventhough it should play the default windows xp sound through the proper speaker. it doesn't play the sound through the speaker that it used to. it plays that silly sound, which will play regardless if your volume is on full, or on mute. it's a totally different speaker.
so, what i did was, i transferred all my gp3 folders to my win 7 64bit pc, and the game is really slow. even with graphics at minimum. fyi: i use 11marco and nemesisf1's wonderful 2012 mod. the only time it's reasonably fast is in practice mode, but in a race, it tends to crash a lot.
so, i can play half of gp3 with sound. but i can't sound edit anymore because i tried downloading gp3 sound editor on my win 7 pc, and it does the same thing that the xp one does. it remplaces a file, and it extract files, (after a long time of waiting) but it can never patch a full gp3sound.dat file without the message '
not responding)' coming up in the title bar of the sound editor. then, you know the story, i have to force close it etc...
please help!!
one day, I decided to do some sound editing with gp3 sounds on my windows xp service pack 2 32bit pc. I have done a lot of sound editing before, and this has never happened before to me. normally, the sound editor patches the file within 2 or 3 seconds of pressing the patch button. it also extracts and saves a file within a few seconds of pressing the extract button and pressing save. this time, it went crazy. i tried to save a file and it took at least a minute, and when i tried to patch a gp3sound.dat file, it crashed my pc, and stopped working all together! i didn't do anything different to what i normally do. the pc is fine, it works but every time i open gp3 sound editor, and try to patch a gp3sound file, the sounds editor crashes. and i have to force close the sounds editor.
to add to the problem, somehow, mysteriously, after that glitch, my pc has no sound what so ever. i can't listen to anything. so, i can't play gp3 with sound anymore. and, even more mysterious, the volume icon in the bottom right of the taskbar is not there any more...
and even more mysterious, i go into control panel and sounds options, it says 'no sound device', eventhough when i unplug headphones and external speakers, it should play sound through the inbuilt speakers of the laptop, like it used to before. even when i unplug everything, it still says 'no sound devices'. i tried system restore, nothing worked, i tried run>services.msc>windows audio>automatic, and i tried restarting windows audio - nothing worked.
even more mysterious, when i go into gp3 sound options in the game, everything is blanked out, so i can't increase/decrease sound from there either...
and sounds editor is still slow whenever i open it, and from that day, it still doesn't patch a gp3sound.dat file. it will save audio from a current file through extraction, but that takes way longer than it used to.
so... everything on my pc still works properly, and gp3 sound editor works partially, but i have no sound. and just to note one more thing... you know that sound that old pcs used to make when you pressed too many keys on the keyboard at once? it was kind of a buzzer sound. well, now, if the gp3 game crashes and gpx patch asks me whether i want an error report, my pc makes that horrible buzzer sound, eventhough it should play the default windows xp sound through the proper speaker. it doesn't play the sound through the speaker that it used to. it plays that silly sound, which will play regardless if your volume is on full, or on mute. it's a totally different speaker.
so, what i did was, i transferred all my gp3 folders to my win 7 64bit pc, and the game is really slow. even with graphics at minimum. fyi: i use 11marco and nemesisf1's wonderful 2012 mod. the only time it's reasonably fast is in practice mode, but in a race, it tends to crash a lot.
so, i can play half of gp3 with sound. but i can't sound edit anymore because i tried downloading gp3 sound editor on my win 7 pc, and it does the same thing that the xp one does. it remplaces a file, and it extract files, (after a long time of waiting) but it can never patch a full gp3sound.dat file without the message '
not responding)' coming up in the title bar of the sound editor. then, you know the story, i have to force close it etc...please help!!
Probably the driver of your soundcard has been corrupted and you need to reinstall it.
Do a right-clic on your Computer's icon, go to Properties then Hardware tab and Hardware Manager. There must be an item with a big question mark or a yellow triangle in front of it. If you don't know exactly what it is or don't have the driver installer somewhere, right-clic on it and go to Detail to see its "name" and google it. Preferably, download the driver on your comp manufacturer's site or the one of the soundcard manufacturer.
For the Seven 64b part, I gave up trying to make it run smoothly and made a dual boot on my comp.
Do a right-clic on your Computer's icon, go to Properties then Hardware tab and Hardware Manager. There must be an item with a big question mark or a yellow triangle in front of it. If you don't know exactly what it is or don't have the driver installer somewhere, right-clic on it and go to Detail to see its "name" and google it. Preferably, download the driver on your comp manufacturer's site or the one of the soundcard manufacturer.
For the Seven 64b part, I gave up trying to make it run smoothly and made a dual boot on my comp.
Sounds weird... Any possibilities that your soundcard crashed ? In that case installing the driver will have no effect I guess.
even though it's talking about the laptop in built speakers...
What do you mean by that ??
even though it's talking about the laptop in built speakers...
What do you mean by that ??
Thanks to clear that. 
Unfortunately I'm afraid your audio hardware device is broken. The sounds you ear are the ones of the motherboard settings. And with a laptop it will be hard to replace your inboard soundcard.
Unfortunately I'm afraid your audio hardware device is broken. The sounds you ear are the ones of the motherboard settings. And with a laptop it will be hard to replace your inboard soundcard.
no problem
oh, well, it's an old laptop anyway...
shouldn't the sound still work with external speakers or headphones?
and how can a tiny program like gp3 sound editor break my hardware?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/26/2013 07:15PM by OldIsGold.
oh, well, it's an old laptop anyway...
shouldn't the sound still work with external speakers or headphones?
and how can a tiny program like gp3 sound editor break my hardware?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/26/2013 07:15PM by OldIsGold.
Yes, that's the last resort probably.
ok, i'll try to do a soundcard uninstall...
by the way, thanks for your help guys!
by the way, thanks for your help guys!
Hi,
if Windows asked to install some drivers, it means Windows has found some hardware. The reason why it is saying it can't install the drivers is that there is a mismatch in Windows (something corrupted maybe) or that the hardware is for some reason broken.
Did you uninstall all the drivers spotted as incorrect in Hardware Manager ? If yes, the last thing you can do would be to make a fresh install as pirx said (don't forget to make a safe copy of all your stuff in a safe place before). If no, you should do that first.
if Windows asked to install some drivers, it means Windows has found some hardware. The reason why it is saying it can't install the drivers is that there is a mismatch in Windows (something corrupted maybe) or that the hardware is for some reason broken.
Did you uninstall all the drivers spotted as incorrect in Hardware Manager ? If yes, the last thing you can do would be to make a fresh install as pirx said (don't forget to make a safe copy of all your stuff in a safe place before). If no, you should do that first.
yes, I tried uninstalling all the stuff that was incorrect in hardware manager. and windows didn't ask me for a driver install on startup, because it thinks that I have no sound hardware plugged in anyway.
I might just get a new laptop. this one has been on it's way out for a long time, ever since the screen broke a couple of years ago... (that's a long story)
the only reason why I kept it because it was the only pc that I had with windows xp, and which could run gp3 with no glitches.
i'm going to get my win 7 harddrive upgraded/or a new win 7 pc soon, so i'll get rid of that laptop and put a dual boot on my new pc.
thanks for your support guys!
by the way, gp3 sounds editor is working fine now, I figured that the problem was with the gp3sound.dat file that I was editing, not the sound editor. I tried working on my win 7 pc with another gp3sound.dat file and it worked fine.
I might just get a new laptop. this one has been on it's way out for a long time, ever since the screen broke a couple of years ago... (that's a long story)
the only reason why I kept it because it was the only pc that I had with windows xp, and which could run gp3 with no glitches.
i'm going to get my win 7 harddrive upgraded/or a new win 7 pc soon, so i'll get rid of that laptop and put a dual boot on my new pc.
thanks for your support guys!
by the way, gp3 sounds editor is working fine now, I figured that the problem was with the gp3sound.dat file that I was editing, not the sound editor. I tried working on my win 7 pc with another gp3sound.dat file and it worked fine.
Sorry you couldn't find a way to resolve your issue. As I said your sound card is probably broken, this can happen with old computers and yours seems to be really old 
GP3 is running fine with XP on a dual boot. Go for it !
GP3 is running fine with XP on a dual boot. Go for it !
ok, thank you very much guys!
as soon as I get a new pc, I will install both windows and put gp3 on the xp side of the dual boot.
thanks again!
as soon as I get a new pc, I will install both windows and put gp3 on the xp side of the dual boot.
thanks again!
I would say that if XP is running in 'virtual-mode' within Win7, it cannot access the full hardware suite of functions available if it where running stand-alone, on a partition (dual-boot) or on a single boot XP only installed rig. I've never heard of anyone actually doing this.
The majority of the mods require hardware mode to run properly, and if you are in software mode, you have no hope at all. Not having played GP3 since the beginning of time....I forget the complexities of the hw/sw thing, but I do know that older rigs have to use sw to get anything at all to work.
You really need a decent rig with a graphics card with at least a gig of onboard memory, then you could run GP4 as well.
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The majority of the mods require hardware mode to run properly, and if you are in software mode, you have no hope at all. Not having played GP3 since the beginning of time....I forget the complexities of the hw/sw thing, but I do know that older rigs have to use sw to get anything at all to work.
You really need a decent rig with a graphics card with at least a gig of onboard memory, then you could run GP4 as well.
[www.mediafire.com] Some say you should click it, you know you want to.
[www.gp4central.com] <----GP4 Central
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