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i can confirm it has to do with those far sight commands.
I removed it in t104 (turn 2) and i finished a 3lap race with external camera.
But now there is a stand hanging on the bridge right in your sight.

I gonna do the same test with those other seasons like meanmc did and see what comes out.
might have to start the complete proces again... a lot of copy-pasting going on.

For now, keep the onboard views.
and many thanks for the tips and info so far.

yes far sight commands are the bain of my life with gp3 -_-

the far sight became a problem when we switched from win98 to winxp and the new gen of video cards. i can't remember having a single crash before. their bug is even unpredictable.

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the only solution i found was to remove the far sight commands as you suggested,rob.
But then the onboard view is very poor, so i will keep those far sights for my use.

If somebody wants them to remove and don't know how, I'm willing to do that and upload.

i think belini mixed the view distance ahead/behind with the far sight values so if you remove those command you can try to reposition all the view distance commands (in couple with the Extend view infront/behind) and see if you can cover more space. the only critical part, at least on shanghai that we talked about is the towers on the main straight and the grand stand. they will disappear anycase when going down turns 2/3 because you can't watch back.
Since this problem raised i tried to avoid the use of far sight. and when in trouble i started doing a double version with and without them. i know what you feel when looking at empty zones that were filled by stuff, it kills the morale

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/02/2013 07:57PM by R_Scandura.

you share my thoughts, rob.
I'm gonna give it another try this weekend.
I still dont know why this problem only occurs for shanghai; the three previous tracks work fine i believe and those have also far sights.

i have no idea too. can't exactly spot what makes it pop.
i can't play most of belini tracks with far sight but despite i stressed the 2013 shanghai i was unable to make it ctd. i did an entire race on my beta shanghai with far sight but i got plenty of crashes with the original hungaroring and original nurburgring which are the lightest of the lot about details. still i race with no problem in acapulco which has many far sight. no coherence in it at all.
all i can think about is that the game has a buffer that when tops the measure crashes or simply different devices react differently on an obsolete game engine...

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/02/2013 08:53PM by R_Scandura.

hi guys!

just to confirm again - i have been racing a whole race at the Belini Shanghai 2008 circuit yesterday, made again many tests with the 2006 and 2008 before and thereafter - i still do not have any ctd anymore!! and it is very clear to me, that driving is now more fluently - so it seems, that before - there was something, what cost constantly a problem and maybe "it mounted up" and then a crash occured?!

in generell, the Belini Shanghai circuit was before the only track, where ctd occured (with my pc system)!

as you mentioned for example Acapulco or Nürburgring - i drove races at the track a few weeks ago, also no problem! also no problem with all the other Belini tracks, and i drove lots of in the last couple of months!!

my solution was changing the jam-files (as i mentioned above)! and for me it worked well...

but of course, i am no specialist with "track stuff itself", i am just a racer... but with my pc system, i have a solution!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2013 03:22AM by meanmc.

@meanmc : you are still running the tracks from "belini_shanghai_v9" i presume?
If this is the solution, i'll check it too. Until now i had tested the tracks of the final pack but they crash too.

I'm curious about Nurburgring and hungaroring because i had planned to have also the belini-layout.
They drove fine but never tested it so thoroughly.

thx for the feedback!

holemad schrieb:
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> @meanmc : you are still running the tracks from
> "belini_shanghai_v9" i presume?
> If this is the solution, i'll check it too. Until
> now i had tested the tracks of the final pack but
> they crash too.
>
> I'm curious about Nurburgring and hungaroring
> because i had planned to have also the
> belini-layout.
> They drove fine but never tested it so
> thoroughly.
>
> thx for the feedback!

Yes, "belini_shanghai_v9"... Before i copied the files in, the Shanghai tracks (2007 and 2008) crashed every time and - as i think - are running not really fluently! Thereafter i do not have any problem anymore! And as i did understand, we got the same problem - so it should work for you too! And i do not have any problem with Nürburgring or Hungaroring from Belini... They should work fine...

hi meanmc, good to be back again.
If i understand you well, you have also copied the jams from shanghai v9, right?

hi holemad...

yes, it is a nice game here - off and on and off again.. smile

What i did:

I do not know which Belini version of the Shanghai circuit i had in the first place (think, maybe V8? - IF?) - but the Shanghai tracks of the years 2007 and 2008 (i did not drive the others) ctd, sometimes after 500m, sometimes "every 1,5 laps"! The ctd-problem seems to occur just if a AI driver is around! If i drive alone, no problem at all!

As my system is quite quick and i do not have any similar problem with any other track, i looked after the latest version for the track - that was Belini Shanghai V9 - that are just jam-files! I copied all files from Shanghai V9 into the right folders (gp3jamh/Belini etc.), overwrote all other files (from each year) and thereafter all ctd were gone!

I hope that helps you too...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2013 10:22AM by meanmc.

hi again, this weekend did some other tests.
guess what ?
When i run the track in the MOD11 or MOD12, the track crashes.
I loaded it with the original GP3.exe and no problem at all.
So, there might be something in those 2 gp3.exe that doesn't work for some tracks.
I switched back and over running these different exe and only the exe from the MODs were crashing!
I thought you are running GP3-2K, so thats another case. I think I used the v9 jams in the 2013 track, though.

I only want to say : the track itself is probably(?) fine.
Now i'm running the original gp3.exe with updated carshape. (of course i'm missing some features now, but for designing i dont need them)
For those guys who are never running it with external cameras, can continu with the MODs offcourse.

thanx for the info

About track crashing issues, I don't know if it is related to your problem but I've just found this in Addie Walti's homepage :
>> direct link <<

Quote
Addie Walti :
track works in practice but crashes in race

problem
The track works properly in practice mode but crashes when you want to make a race.

discussion
The track probably includes too much jam-size. In races there gets an additional jam called crowd4.jam loaded and this may be too much then. So you had to remove some (unused) jams of yours.

I hope this could help anyone in trackmaking as well.

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did not help at all. sorry, eric.
Tried this one first; in fact its the first test that i do when i get some strange ctd.
It will stay one of the mysteries of gp3.

thanks anyway

hello guys, some one to have a race with Alonso ?
Here's your chance, lets go to Barcelona !

Its a belini track with far sights, so be aware that some ctd could occur.
Look conversations above to help you find a solution.

But most important : enjoy the ride.

Dirk

Sounds great, looking forward to take a spin around the Catalunya circuit a la 2013...

Thanks for your great updates Dirk



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/20/2013 08:01PM by shlund.

thanks, mate.
You gonna like it, for sure!

You're right Fantastic job and no ctd for me at the moment, that's nice...

Also nice with your new circuit projects (from another tread)...

work in progress : belini monaco fully detailed updating to 2013