If I had money invested of course I would want the season to go to finale.... but if we even consider that to be a factor aren't we opening Pandora's Box? Has it already been opened? Just what are we watching? Somebody call Mulder and Scully!by Razorsedge - F1
I guess they own the rights to the event that that video is part of. I think Hamilton is way too close to the safety car. I can't imagine them taking the victory, if anything it will be a grid penalty, and won't change anything because I'm sure Hamilton could get back to at least 4th.by Razorsedge - F1
LOL, even though I know I shouldn't.by Razorsedge - F1
No worries,I can see the sense in that. Yes, Mad dog on the loose....It's interesting his book has been withdrawn. I wish Stepney would just lay the cards on the table...I guess he's waiting for his day in court and hoping Ferrari will withdraw the case?by Razorsedge - F1
Well played gentleman. But I must refute this claim from welshjim22: "Many fans back Ferrari but they ran an illegal car in Australia" That is totally untrue. The Ferrari (and the McLaren) were both deemed Legal at the Australian event. The regulations were clarified after the race. @ DaveEllis and tripleM I like the debate youre having. The vagaries of the F.I.A. court aby Razorsedge - F1
But that's not really Luca's point. He is alluding to the evidence demonstrating that McLaren used the stolen Ferrari data (as proved by the e-mails) and thus breached the sporting code and were subsequently thrown out of the Championship. Guilty as charged your honor. If there was sufficient doubt McLaren had the opportunity to appeal. They didn't because they can't proveby Razorsedge - F1
I agree with Luca, but I also think he should shut up about it.by Razorsedge - F1
Yes absolutely. You just have to look at the carnage that sort of thing causes in on-line games (like r-factor) to realize how ridiculous it can be. I'm sure Webber will be bringing this up at the next Drivers meeting (and maybe his lunch again!!).by Razorsedge - F1
FIA to back up emails with printed notices By Jonathan Noble Sunday, September 30th 2007, 13:35 GMT All email correspondence sent by the FIA to the Formula One teams will be backed up in the future by written confirmation as well, the governing body announced. After Ferrari failed to receive before today's Japanese Grand Prix an email from the race stewards instructing all teams toby Razorsedge - F1
Are you only going to watch the GP2 race this week Chet?by Razorsedge - F1
I think Alonso WOULD have made his move on M.S. regardless. What i don't like is to see Hamilton (not because I dislike him)essentially being driven into the wall, but just staying on the power and almost getting away in front of Alonso who (just) remained on the circuit. There is something incredibly wrong with that.by Razorsedge - F1
"Even the FIA could not justify throwing them out of the championship. Since there is no proof the documents were used at all" ROFL.by Razorsedge - F1
"I can accept that." Sorry, I sound like a wanker there, let me change that to... we can/should accept that.by Razorsedge - F1
I agree with your sentiment but not your assumptions about 'Honest' Ron Big brother. I think when Alonso approached Ron in/prior to Hungary Ron had no choice but to alert the F.I.A. (with their threat of throwing McLaren out if more evidence came to light hanging over the team.) I think it's reasonable to believe Ron had nothing to do with the Data. I can accept that. Iby Razorsedge - F1
Yeah but you're all forgetting 'no industrial espionage' took place and no advantage was gained. And mere possesion of the Data by an individual member of the team amounts to nothing. LOLOLOL!!by Razorsedge - F1
I think it's a good decision. The Championship was ruined for Mclaren anyway when this story first broke, they were first found guilty and then they tried to continue to protest their innocence. The best news is the Drivers Championship remains untouched so we don't have Kimi or Massa being handed a title they just don't deserve this year. And we still get to enjoy Alonso tryingby Razorsedge - F1
Damn you mikefi; you robbed us of the joy of one of the greatest forum replies ever by providing the punchline yourself!! The game is rigged! I hope you're satisfied!!by Razorsedge - F1
LOL, sorry Dave was doing some hefty editing to the end of my post but the stuff your commenting on remains un-edited. Now, Espionage or spying has taken place. Receipt of the documents or to use the above definition "obtaining information without permission" is espionage, or shall we call it spying. It has taken place, that's why we're all in this mess. Even though itby Razorsedge - F1
erm....the theft and transferral of 780 pages of technical documents, and possible subsequent use of that data to gain insight into and advantage over a rival team. For example: Espionage (a loanword from French espionnage) or spying is a practice of obtaining information about an organization or a society that is considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of theby Razorsedge - F1
August is the only month in which Nuclear weapons have been used in combat.by Razorsedge - F1
gav Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The thing is though, when you earn probably $60m a > year average over the last 10 years (and that's > being conservative), giving away $10m isn't going > to make the slightest difference to you or your > family's life, other than giving you a halo. Now, this is a crazy perception. The coby Razorsedge - F1
Why would it be 'the end of f1' if they(McLaren) are proven to be guilty and then penalized???by Razorsedge - F1
So the case is to be re-examined? The F.I.A. have withdrawn their appeal? I'm completely at a loss as to what this all means. I thought it was the Italian Motor sport somethingorother that lodged the appeal, not Max Mosley. If for no other reason than to kill a bit of time before the Italian G.P. can anyone give me a clue as to w.t.f. is going on now. Cheers.by Razorsedge - F1
I just thought about that and realized I've actually never been bored by a Monza event. I love watching them race at the place. I'm not just saying this to start something...I just really love the races at Monza (being a fan of Schumacher.M. of course helps!LOL.) It's like Belgium Spa, and Suzuka (admittedly only when you are there in the flesh) nothing boring about it. I donby Razorsedge - F1
gav Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Razorsedge Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Back to Istanbul. I think Fernando is looking > well > > placed. He'll get his stint on Hard tires out > of > > the way, and be running in relatively clean > air, > > that is of course if aby Razorsedge - F1
Yes, I've read some some of those posts. I think Nationality is very important to Dave. Back to Istanbul. I think Fernando is looking well placed. He'll get his stint on Hard tires out of the way, and be running in relatively clean air, that is of course if a B.M.W. doesn't get in front of him, and the other 3 on softs are quick enough to pull out a gap to him. I didn'tby Razorsedge - F1
Could it be possible. Could this be akin to the 'leak' of the MJ12 documents. If it works out to be true, how will they cover it up? from F1-Live. "Online bookstore Amazon.co.uk is announcing an item that can only be regarded as being ahead of its time. Lewis Hamilton: the Biography is set to be published and released for sale in early November, yet the hardcover book'by Razorsedge - F1
But...he already IS the king of the sport. It seems that a lot of people are quickly developing a dis-like for him as his success rolls on. The weird thing is there will be no come down for him. He has the talent to put the car where it should be, and the team won't put their effort into Alonso only, because with the court appeal coming up about Stepney and Coughlin, McLaren will need everyby Razorsedge - F1
"...or schumacher running over stepney etc)" In hindsight, Schumacher probably ran Nigel S. over because he whispered on the radio about joining Honda!!by Razorsedge - F1
Nope, I'm recanting my initial post here because now Ron has claimed it was Hamilton's fault for not following procedure earlier in the session. This season is becoming a farce. Looking forward to Alonso claiming the win, hopefully with Kimi a close second; both with heavy loads of fuel. Bring it on!by Razorsedge - F1